Mind and Body time separation

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by MechTech, Jun 25, 2003.

  1. MechTech Registered Senior Member

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    Is it possible for your body to be in the present, but for your mind to be slightly in the future?

    If so, it would seem to correctly explain all Deja Vu phenomena.

    I just think this is a very interesting concept. After all, science has not been able to uncover very much about how the human brain works (as far as to be definitive). Sure, some things are known, but it is more like reverse-engineering, which is, I would say, the hardest thing possible to do.

    Also, the speed of thought appears to be instantaneous. Who is to say that someone's speed of thought does not approach the speed of light at one point or other? (Especially in the subconscious).

    If, in fact, thought does approach or even surpass the speed of light (I don't know if it does or doesn't), then wouldn't it be possible for the mind to be slightly in the future of the body? Then, wouldn't that be an acceptable explanation for Deja Vu?
     
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  3. Fafnir665 You just got served. Registered Senior Member

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    Jamais Vu is the opposite of Deja Vu, in which your doing things you've done before, but it seems like the first time. Would this be your mind going back in time to a point where you never did it, yet you remember doing it?
     
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  5. MechTech Registered Senior Member

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    No no. This would be more like "I know what is going to happen within the next minute because I've seen it before". Like, for example, maybe you know that a certain thing will happen a little while before it does. An example would be that you "saw" a tree limb fall after a certain sequence of scenarios (say, in a dream you had). Then, next day, those scenarios happen just like that, and the limb on the tree does, in fact, fall.
     
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  7. Fafnir665 You just got served. Registered Senior Member

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    I am aware of what deja vu is. I was speaking of Jamais Vu, or maybe you are too. Anyways, my description of the nature of jamais vu is correct. I was just stating another part of your "vu" scenario.
     
  8. MechTech Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, okay

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    I guess I just misunderstood

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  9. //drift I've Seen it. . .It's Rubbish Registered Senior Member

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    If the mind isn't really connected to the universe or existance our bodies are in, which i don't think it is, i get the feeling that it seems pretty likely that it isn't affected by time (as we know it) at all, and that we've just learned to cope though our bodies' and surroundings' passage through it, so we've ended up focused on the present that our bodies our in, or otherwise maybe the body would just die...if the mind was able to wander through time like it was space(which i suppose you could say it is...hmMMmm)
    Anyway, i like what mechtech is saying, i think perhaps if something physical, or even external somehow (somewhere, somewhat, something) 'trips' slightly, maybe the mind is shunted, or let to drift briefly a bit either way, which the mind itself isn't used to experiencing, while stuck behind the physical body.
    What if it's just the past that and/or the structure of the brain that forces the mind to just follow the body through time at this universe's pace....usually.

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  10. maxpowers200169 Registered Member

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    :bugeye: we dont use our brain to its full potential, in fact we only use less than half of it, I belive the other part of our brain provides the capability for thought along with other things like telekinesis, etc, etc.:bugeye:
     
  11. Circe Registered Senior Member

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    Is that really a proven fact? Exactly, what percentage of the brain power do we use?

    Or is it that we use 100% of our brains - just not all its parts at the same time? Comparably, you don't use every single muscle group all at once.
     
  12. MechTech Registered Senior Member

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    Also, how much of the brain is used for thinking/processing, how much is used for storage (ie, kinda like a hard drive), and how much is used for "other"?
     
  13. qfrontier Captain Of Starship Registered Senior Member

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    Ive heard we only use like 12% of our brains. Now im not sure if its one part of the brain that functions at 12% or the whole brain as one functions at 12%...but this thread is interesting

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  14. Nebula Occasionally Frequent Registered Senior Member

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    In psych class our prof, a neurosurgeon, said that humans use
    %100 of our brain power, although maybe not all at the same time. ALL of your brain is used; the "unused" parts would have dwindled away at some early point in evolution.

    **edit to add**

    Also, what makes you think the mind and body are separate entities in the first place?

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  15. safXmal Registered Member

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    Mind and body could be seperate just as a computer program could be independent from the kind of platform it works on (like a java applet). This doesn't mean that the mind isn't influenced by the body or vice versa just as each platform used sets limits to the way the program works.
    I have a little theory about this deja vu and jamais vu problem. What if our mind tries to predict everything that happens around us and ourt counsciousness resides in this prediction. This would have interesting consequences when our mind has to adjust the predictions to real live.
     
  16. ProCop Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting: While a kid, we were shooting katapults (with steel bolts) once in a forest. At some moment I foresaw a friend shooting against a tree and the bolt coming back into my face. I ducked and the bolt just lightly touched my head.

    It is many years ago but I still remember the moment with a feeling of puzzlement. How could I had foreseen the bolt going into my face before he actually did shoot?
     
  17. qfrontier Captain Of Starship Registered Senior Member

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    Something similiar happened to me recently where I was coming from a trip. I was in my van and all of a sudden a thought hit me and it was back at my house where a friend of mine was knocking my door and my cousin answers it and says that I wasn't at home. When I came to my house after 45 minutes, my cousin said a friend of mine had come just couple minutes before I arrived! I was quite amazed

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