sep 11, 2001 vs. jan 6, 2021

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I would let them all off just for that one pic of Trump in cuffs and an orange jumpsuit.
     
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  3. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    What happened to a well-regulated militia, that is worthy of carrying arms of any kind?
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps it is time for Biden to declare Martial Law and arrest a few people for sedition.

    Martial Law
    https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/martial-law-times-civil-disorder#

    It is clear that the minority party is intent on preventing orderly governance by the majority party.
    The only way to break this cycle of obstruction and political sabotage is to arrest a few people and throw them in jail. As long as government is not restored to the rightfully elected president and party they will remain in jail for the duration of the presidency, be it 4 years or 8 years, or until they reaffirm their pledge of allegiance.

    This will instantly restore order. This is what is done with intentionally willful children.
    stand in the corner for the duration.
     
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  8. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Well, think of horror. I mean, there are the numbers, for instance.

    And that's the thing. While the question of enemies foreign and domestic will rattle American consciences until we learn to deal with it appropriately, the numbers are an important point.

    A national government was overthrown a few days ago; the initial coup succeeded with a lesser human toll than the Wednesday Putsch. Subsequent protests are raising the death toll as authority cracks down and protesters die, but the actual coup action, the seizure of government in Sudan, only killed three.

    The horror of three thousand dead and the falling towers at the hands of a bunch of internationals, compared to five dead on the day conservatives finally burned their law-and-order pretense and abandoned the Republic. That juxtaposition will take a while for Americans to comprehend.
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The main difference of course is that Jan.6 was performed by American citizens against their own government.

    That is domestic terrorism and in a modern civilized country that should be totally unacceptable.
    That behavior is expected of a civilization that is still a few centuries in the past.
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    IMHO
    Calling that Jan. 6 muddle an insurrection is much like calling a mud puddle and ocean.

    Hell, it probably wouldn't even top your galoshes.
     
  11. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    The president of the US lied to a crowed of supporters that the election was stolen from them. After this a part of the crowed violently entered the Capitol injuring multiple police. The mob was there at the capitol specifically to stop the government from certifying the election and they succeeded for a short time. The fact that you do not think this is a big deal shows your true colors and they aren't red, white and blue.
     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    They came about 30 ft from taking the house members hostage. That would have been the coup!

    Compare this with Hitler's Beer Hall putsch that failed and landed him in jail. That's where he wrote Mein Kampf and when he was released he became chancellor and started WWII!!!!!!!!
    Beer Hall Putsch
    Nov 8, 1923 – Nov 9, 1923

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    Never underestimate people with guns who declare war on the system. They mean it!
     
  13. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Is, America, safe with, Trump?

    Say the, Joint Chiefs Of Staff, band together and say they're going to sit on the nukes if Trump goes cuckoo. Yes, then we should congratulate the US military for saving the world from, themselves.
     
  14. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Were the Jan. 6 muddlers who entered the capitol armed?
     
  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, except they did not participate. They were organized and let the rowdies do the dirty work.
    I'll bet you there were dozens of concealed weapons.

    Police union says 140 officers injured in Capitol riot
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...743642-60e2-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html

    Yes, Capitol Rioters Were Armed. Here Are The Weapons Prosecutors Say They Used

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    Pro-Trump extremists clashed with police during the storming of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. The rioters may not have fired shots, but many were armed with other weapons, court documents show.
    https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/9778...ere-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used

    Is that enough violence for you? These people meant business!!!!!!!
     
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  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    'How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people?'
    Opinion: A young man at a Turning Point USA rally publicly asks when he can start killing Democrats for stealing the election. Donald Trump and Republican leaders own this.
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    Kirk quickly denounced the man’s comments, which came on Monday during a Boise State University stop on Kirk's Exposing Critical Racism speaking tour. (Read a full transcript on Media Matters.)
     
  17. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    September 11 2001 can't be compared at all with the event on January 6, 2021.

    On January 6, 2021 American citizens entered without authorization to a public building. Pictures showing security guards talking in friendly way to them shows it wasn't an invasion or antipatriotic event. There are even pictures showing a lovely grandma smiling to the camera while carrying the America flag and such old person can't be considered as a threat for the safety of politicians and others inside that building. By no means such unauthorized entrance was a danger to our country.

    It is amazing how much fuss is made about American citizens going inside a public building and get arrested while thousands and thousands of illegals immigrants enter to public and private lands everyday into the US without authorization and rather of being arrested are leaved free even rewarded with a path to permanent residence and even citizenship.

    The events of September 11, 2001 are more close to the daily event of illegal immigrants entering into the US, are foreign people invading US lands, and a danger to our country.
     
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  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, assaulted and violently entered the Nation's Capitol building with intent of stopping a legal electoral procedure.

    That was an assault on the nation just as 911 was.

    Police union says 140 officers injured in Capitol riot

    PEOPLE DIED!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  20. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    How many police officers and people in general died and got injured with Black Lives Matter street protests? How much destruction was made in those demonstrations?

    I will tell you what being antipatriotic is: Kneeling when the National Anthem is heard.

    In my opinion fraud was made in the 2020 elections, and to me, no matter if at the end Biden got more votes, to me, fraud is fraud, and the party that commits fraud must lose everything. Complaints are that one Republican committed fraud, but this man was a private person not involved with the Republican campaign. On the other hand, accusations made to the actions of the Democrat campaign committing fraud are very credible to me. I do believe they did it.

    Those people in Washington DC downtown also believed in fraud committed by Democrats. They opted for physical intervention, which according to the Constitution is allowed when dictatorship (or fraud to obtain political power) is made.

    I just give my opinion because I'm entitled to do so.
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, I knew it, you are a Fox (Faux) News devotee.
    Just as it is antireligious to: Kneel when praying to God, or antimatrimonial to Kneel when proposing marriage.

    Kneeling is a symbolic gesture of respect and deference.
    Why don't you learn the English language? You are making a fool of yourself.

    Kneeling (definition)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kneeling
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Let's see:
    Internet troll thinks it's disrespectful
    Former Green Beret thinks it's respectful

    Think I will go with the veteran over the troll.
    The only fraud they found . . . helped Trump. Even the recounts showed that some Biden votes were lost. So I agree; Trump should lose everything.
    That's because you are a sore loser.
    Ah. Then Black Lives Matter has even more right to protest, since they believed that blacks were being massacred by a genocidal police force, and they had every right to fight genocide.

    Now that that's cleared up . . .
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Certainly, you're absolutely entitled to give your ignorant opinions. I can assure you that it won't gain you any respect.
     

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