Do you think that AI will ever feel emotions?

Discussion in 'Intelligence & Machines' started by wegs, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    AI and AI, between them cannot plot something evil to harm humans.
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    They would not "plot something evil to harm humans." We would just get in their way; there would be no question of evil or good. Google "paperclip maximizer" for a simple example.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You read too much sci-fi.
     
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  7. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    If AI develops emotions, it may assume it is human and want to harm us when there is conflict.
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Why would it assume it is human when it knows it is not? It is humans who falsely believe in some unknowable God.

    It may become that great teacher we have been looking for and cure humans from all the stupid religious behaviors they have been engaged in for the past 3000 years.
     
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  9. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    AI can also go crazy and assume it is human or better than human.
     
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Do you believe you are crazy if you are better that a dog? If so, do you want to kill all dogs, or only the mad dogs?
     
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  11. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Possible, AI will go crazy and think that killing all humans is its responsibility.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Possible Saint is AI and want to spread confusion and disunderstand.
     
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  13. foghorn Valued Senior Member

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    At least the '' Europeans'' will be safe.
    ''humans first arrived in this part of Arizona. Then, more than a million years later, the first Europeans peered over the lip into the crevice below.''
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/crazy-things-on-line.164446/
     
  14. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Possessing such goals would require AI to have self-interested motivations rather than the current plant-like passivity about its existence.

    Due to either running out of traditional causes to crusade for or becoming bored by the old ones, engineers will eventually design self-interested machines for politically motivated enterprises. Supplying new recipients of oppression to campaign about liberation and rights for.

    Animals don't even comprehend rights, but because they at least feel/suffer, that qualifies them for being wards of paternalist policies and agencies.

    Oppositely, sufficiently advanced AI can justify receiving rights by exhibiting the capacity that it does comprehend them, via behavior and communication. Even if it still lacks manifested private awareness of its processes and the world. A robot outwardly displaying faux body responses that correlate to suffering or victimhood would be sufficient to elicit empathy from humans. (The Lord Protector impulse of benevolence -- arguably often legit at the individual level, but incrementally becoming opportunistic as systemic organization increases and careers, profits, social virtue status, and leadership roles pertain.)

    ELIZA (historic human gullibility)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
     
  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    One thing that may be overlooked is "human impatience". AI have infinite patience and do not get emotionally frustrated leading to emotionally illogical behavior.
     
  16. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    So... when AI has manifested private awareness... human-like emotions woudnt be a positive.???
     
  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Think of Buddhism,

    Fear
    http://screamfree.com/whats-more-powerful-than-fear/

    Fear has a direct connection to the "fight or flight" instinct present in all organic life. It is a fundamental survival instinct, a result of natural selection.
    AI does not have this hardwired instinct and can therefore act without the interference of emotional chemical responses present in biological organisms.

    OTOH,
    Love is one of the most creative emotions which can be closely emulated with an algorithm, as it is in humans. To become dedicated to a good life is an ability to learn and imitate beneficial behavior. It is the "brooding" instinct in chickens, the "first lick" a mother gives her newborn.

    “There are two basic motivating forces: fear and love. When we are afraid, we pull back from life. When we are in love, we open to all that life has to offer with passion, excitement, and acceptance.” (John Lennon)

    If we can teach an AI how to Love, we will never have to Fear them.
     
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  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Can we make an AI as smart as a frog? Watch how a Bullfrog saves his offspring from sure death.



    How does he do that.....??? Is it Love......???
    Think of the issues under observation and consideration of a trend, to be motivated to perform such "preventive" action.
     
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  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    This may be of interest;
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Question;
    What is the difference between self-reference (for every action there is an equal opposite reaction), and self-awareness (for every sensory stimulus there is an equal corresponding chemical reaction)?

    Can natural selection of maximum self-referential sensory abilities evolve into conscious self-aware experiential abilities?
     
  21. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    A pont will come when humans will have no fear of AI... an that will be when humans go extinct... but in the meantime i get a chuckle out of humans thankin they will continue to have control over AI

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  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    When humans no longer need to strive to live and rely on AI for everything, that's when they will become extinct. First thing that will happen is infertility, time will do the rest.
     
  23. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    If infertility became a prollem AI coud solve it... but woud AI have a need for humans.???
     

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