Black holes do not exist

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  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    AFAIK a black hole is a 3 dimensional object with a supermassive singularity at it's center.
    As far as unidirectional seems true. Something goes in and doesn't come out again.....

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    Not once it is inside the black hole. But apparently not everything falls into a black hole. Hawking radiation occurs at the event horizon, where some energy manages to escape.

    No, Black Holes Can't 'Burp.' But What They Do Instead Is Important
    https://time.com/4499557/black-hole-burp/
     
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    How so ? What is this 3 dimensional object of a black-hole ? Which at the same time is a supermassive singularity ? You realise this makes no sense .
     
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    Wow!!!!

    This is the easiest to understand description of this that I have ever read.


     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    OK, simple explanation; a black hole appears the same when viewed from every angle, up, down, sideways. Regardless of the angle of observation, what you see is an enormous round black disk (the event horizon) with a tiny singularity (which you cannot see) sitting in its center.

    Think of it like you would look at earth from every angle. It would appear a solid round 3 d object from every angle of observation with the core at its center, hidden from view.

    If I am wrong, I welcome correction.

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    https://tomasflores.weebly.com/kerr-and-schwarzschild-black-holes.html

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    https://www.researchgate.net/figure...zons-and-the-ring-singulatrity_fig2_265603056
     
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    Yet this " enormous black disc " has not been observed , in reality . Show me a Photograph of this " enormous black disc " , by Telescopes , or Hubble . You won't find one .
     
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    Yes you can.
    Note that the black hole is somewhat obscured by the 3 D surrounding space, The image shown will look like this from every angle, and the closer you get the more defined the black disk becomes.

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    A view of the M87 supermassive black hole in polarised light. EHT Collaboration/ESO
    https://www.newscientist.com/articl...ack-hole-reveals-its-swirling-magnetic-field/

    Here is an early video.
     
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    First photo . Is the swirling going away from the center , or into the center ?
     
  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure if this natural or doctored
     
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    Watched the video .

    Here is the thing Write4U . Gravity interpretation puzzles me since gravity waves moves away from the source not imploding inwards towards the source .

    Black Holes are a mathematical invention , only . And not a possible physical reality .
     
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    Looks like these magnetic ripples are drawing toward the center and not flaring outward as in a spiral.
     
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    Where did these pictures come from? And what do they represent if not BH?

    Whether you or I understand the phenomenon is irrelevant in view of scientific evidence.
    You have to trust the science. It's about the only thing left that demands proof before it can be considered true.
     
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    Why are these ripples , magnetic ?
     
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    The Interpretation ,,,,,,,,Matters .
     
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    Are you qualified to interpret evidence? I am not, but if there is one Interpretive profession I trust it is Science.
    It is self-regulating and has been responsible for our understanding of the Universe and "how things work".

    Science is the last bastion of seeking truth. The rest just seeks power, profit, and/or gratification.
     
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    In 1905 Einstein brought his theory of Realitivity . Brilliant thinking , at the time . Now though we think upon the Universe much differently .
     
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    I'll leave that to the people .

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    Of Course Science Is . I'm In .

    People are having a hard time understanding me it seems .
     
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    We're constantly improving, along with our development of ever more accurate measuring methods.
     
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    Because of a better understanding of the Physical .
     

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