Why Defend our country?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Frencheneesz, Jun 8, 2003.

  1. Frencheneesz Amazing Member Registered Senior Member

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    SG-N:

    hmm, is that so? If you didn't notice, I defend the french more than most americans would; and because I don't like the french anyway, you choose to slander me.

    "3 teens did it so we are all stupid."

    No, "you" are all stupid because of "your" backward culture and pompous attitude. And just to correct you, these 3 stupid teens did what they did not only because of their mental attitude, but because they had mental, if not phsicial support to do that type of thing by many more people around them that might not have helped in the direct action.

    You sound like a full-bred hick bitch-ass american red-neck. Your pompous attitude just adds evidence to support my view of the french. This isn't dis-forums, learn to debate, dipshit.
     
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  3. fireguy_31 mors ante servitium Registered Senior Member

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    History or poppycock?

    Xao...
    Why is it that you continue to believe that Native Americans are wiped out?? Since when?? It's just that politicians, like yourself, continue to believe they are gone, it's easier to deal with them that way. Hmmm, i wonder if a Native American writes a letter to his or her congessperson does that person read it??? I mean, they don't exist, right?

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    No, you never clearly stated that the citizens from your list of countries supported military action but, please concede that it was a hidden assertion. I mean why else would you list them? Why not just list the names of those leaders??? I know why, and so do you.

    Arguing one side just for the sake of it?!?! Yup, a fantastic politician you would make!
     
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  5. Frencheneesz Amazing Member Registered Senior Member

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    "Arguing one side just for the sake of it?!?"

    I do that whenever I can. I like to support the other side of an issue any time possible, because then usually I can knock the other guy down and he can't say it was because I didn't look at his perspective.
     
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  7. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    Are you serious? Jerreck don't like the French but he never said that we were lazy, unintellectual and backward. You defend the French more than most of your friends? You're better as an "enemy" than as a "friend".

    Where are your proofs that they would have had any support? We are not like you : we protect the past...
    Who is slandering who now?

    Incredible! You're able to destroy all your credibility with 3 sentences... "You sound like a full-bred hick bitch-ass american red-neck" : what an argument as you don't know me! You show how you're superior to me with such an argument. "Your pompous attitude just adds evidence to support my view of the french." : Is "pompous" the english word for those who defend their country against your stupidity? Then I am... but as I thought that it meant "arogant", I don't know why you used it. You tried to use a sophisticated word without knowing when to use it... an other uncultivated American! "This isn't dis-forums, learn to debate, dipshit." : you end your sentence with "dipshit"... no comments!

    I don't care what you think of the French. I will not live better nor worse if you hate us... However I will not let you vomit your lies as you don't know anything about the French culture.
     
  8. DeeCee Valued Senior Member

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    With a murder rate in excess of 20,000 per year, just who is it that America needs defending from?

    Dee Cee
     
  9. Xaositecte Registered Member

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    Re: History or poppycock?



    Why do I bother?

    ""By conservative estimates, the population of the United states prior to European contact was greater than 12 million. Four centuries later, the count was reduced by 95% to 237 thousand."

    From http://www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti-1997/native-americans.html

    A minute with google, is all it took, to see what I was talking about. What do you do? Straw man me! Did you fail High School English? Do you have no reading comprehension abilities whatsoever? Did you eat paint chips as a child? Honestly, at least TRY to understand what I tell you, rather than attempting to ridicule me with a non-existent point.

    Why would I concede that? I never asserted what you ask, and, quite frankly, have no idea where the support of the citizenry of each of those countries lie on the issue of War with Iraq. Neither do you.

    Why did I list them? Because Frenchie asserted that the United States was the only country supporting the War in Iraq, and I provided the list to disprove that point.

    Think about what you say before you say it.

    Read my posts, understand them, and if you need clarification, ASK FOR CLARIFICATION. Ridicule just makes me dislike you.

    That's the point.
     
  10. Frencheneesz Amazing Member Registered Senior Member

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    "You defend the French more than most of your friends? You're better as an "enemy" than as a "friend"."

    No, I defend the french more than most of my country. I didn't say I was a friend of the french, just a more thinking adversary.

    "Where are your proofs that they would have had any support?"

    Try thinking and you'd find that noone does things that they know will not only get them in trouble, but serve to make people critisize them socially too - Society is more powerful than the law. I have no proof, but logically, these people would not do such an act if the people they are around didn't feel the same. Don't you think that if a few were pushed to the limits and acted on it, a few more would have the same thinking, but would rather not act on it.

    "what an argument as you don't know me!"

    Did you not read that I wrote "you sound like" indicating that you sound like an idiot, not that I know you are an idiot. For all I know you could be the greatest, smartest, nicest guy gone horribly horribly wrong in writing.

    "Is "pompous" the english word for those who defend their country against your stupidity? Then I am... but as I thought that it meant "arogant", I don't know why you used it. You tried to use a sophisticated word without knowing when to use it..."

    I'm.. speachless. Did you look it up or something? Yes it means something on the lines of "arrogant", its not all that sophisticated....

    "However I will not let you vomit your lies as you don't know anything about the French culture."

    From what little I know by having lived there for a month, and from what I've heard... EVERYWHERE, I've seen the french always portrayed as less than palatable, even when viewing them first-hand. It was pleasant enough being there, but a certain ora was always perceptable. Even Mark twain wrote about disliking the french in his stories.

    You just sound like a flaming patriot. Great we have plenty like you that do the same thing you're doing, for the US. Its sickening really.
     
  11. grimreaper Registered Senior Member

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    1 because your country defends you.
    those soldiers do not say where and when they will fight that is up to the congress and press. your elected servents.

    if you will look at the countrys tn which we are fighting how many people are allowed to protest their goverments actions.

    withrespect
     
  12. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    I wanted to say "two words : rapists, murderers" but it's more complicated... Each case is different and here I disagree with you : we (99.999% of the French) have never and will never think about desicration of tombs. That's not in our culture.
    One month in France... and you've heard a lot about us everywhere! So... And when Mark Twain wrote about disliking the french (that he visited around 1865-1869...) we have to trust him...
    I defend my country, I don't attack yours...

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  13. fireguy_31 mors ante servitium Registered Senior Member

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    You dislike me?

    Oh Xao...

    Fairly clever, not to mention insulting. KUDOS!

    To answer your questions; Natural Resource Law, No, Don't understand question, and ummm I think so but can't remember!

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    Surprised? Probably, E-postings lack tells that would paint a complete picture of the scribbler behind the message.

    Fact: Native Americans exist, and always have. (You missed MY point!) You, just like I, have absolutely no idea whether or not those "COUNTRIES" (PROPER) support military action. Maybe the leaders do, that's even questionable, but don't translate or convey that solitary support, from one individual, as a collective voice -- that was my second point.

    Understanding your point is a little hazy due to the fact that you argue a side for the sake of it. Maybe pick one side, quite riding the fence. Afterall you are allowed to have your own opinions.

    P.S.
    I like you!
     
  14. Frencheneesz Amazing Member Registered Senior Member

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    "we (99.999% of the French) have never and will never think about desicration of tombs. That's not in our culture."

    Lol, well I know desicration of tombs is done on the imperial holiday of easter over here, I don't know what you frenchies do without it!

    But seriously, I'm not saying that the whole of france supported it, I'm only saying that it was more than just the three. Perhaps 40 or 50 were indirectly supportive. Can you agree?

    "we have to trust him"

    He was a smart guy - and well traveled. Don't take it personally - I wouldn't if you said Americans suck. Americans do suck, we have too many dumb millitant rednecks. But I still stand by my stereotype that the french are a little more self-absorbed than other countries.
     
  15. GB-GIL Trans-global Senator Evilcheese, D-Iraq Registered Senior Member

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    Frencheneesz: wow. You are really, really, really ethnocentric.

    Calling a whole nation lazy... unintellectual... have you looked in the mirror lately?

    Quite a few academic journals are written in French, many of the societies that publish them are based in France. In my research and studies, among others I've come upon such ones as "Le Journal du Société des Océanistes" (might be spelled wrong), and other ones. I have gotten myself into a rut as far as trying to find out more about the ideas of Konstantin Pozdniakov on Rongo-rongo because the only place they're written that I know of is in French (and I don't know French except for a little I picked up from trying to understand articles in academic journals)- yep, you guessed it, he wrote a few articles, all 100% in French (except for some quotations in Russian and English) for Le Journal du Société des Océanistes. Sure, there are English and Russian articles in Journal des Océanistes (as it is called for short), but the vast majority are in French (although sometimes there is a summary at the end of an article in English, and there is a brief description on the Société's website in English of each article in each issue)

    I assume you publish lots of academic journals? No? Oh, you must be worse than unintellectual, since your journal-publishing counterparts in France, since you don't publish a journal. I guess that makes you lazy, too?

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  16. GB-GIL Trans-global Senator Evilcheese, D-Iraq Registered Senior Member

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    Afghanistan - puppet state.
    Albania - citizens did not support military action.
    Angola - not sure.
    Australia - citizens did not support military action.
    Azerbaijan - citizens did not support military action.
    Bulgaria - citizens did not support military action.
    Colombia - citizens did not support military action.
    Costa Rica - citizens did not support military action.
    Czech Republic - not sure.
    Denmark - citizens did not support military action.
    Dominican Republic - citizens did not support military action.
    El Salvador - citizens did not support military action.
    Eritrea - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Estonia - not sure.
    Ethiopia - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Georgia - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Honduras - citizens did not support military action.
    Hungary - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Iceland - citizens did not support military action.
    Italy - citizens did not support military action.
    Japan - citizens did not support military action.
    Kuwait - citizens supported military action.
    Latvia - not sure.
    Lithuania - not sure.
    Macedonia - not sure.
    Marshall Islands - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Micronesia - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Mongolia - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Netherlands - citizens did not support military action.
    Nicaragua - citizens did not support military action.
    Palau - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Panama - citizens did not support military action.
    Philippines - citizens did not support military action.
    Poland - not sure.
    Portugal - citizens did not support military action.
    Romania - not sure.
    Rwanda - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Singapore - citizens did not support military action.
    Slovakia - not sure.
    Solomon Islands - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    South Korea - citizens did not support military action.
    Spain - citizens did not support military action.
    Tonga - not sure, but citizens probably did not support military action.
    Turkey - citizens most definitely did NOT support military action!
    Uganda - citizens did not support military action.
    Ukraine - not sure.
    United Kingdom - citizens generally did not support military action.
    United States - most citizens supported military action (by the time the war started).
    Uzbekistan - citizens did not support military action.
     
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  17. Frencheneesz Amazing Member Registered Senior Member

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    "I assume you publish lots of academic journals?"

    Oh and since the nation of france has posted some (or a lot of) academic journals, I'm a hypocryte because I don't write academic jounals? Thats ridiculous.

    Of COURSE there are things written in french, but giving me an example of one that has only a MAJORITY in french is weak. And academic journals isn't a measure of lazieness or workmanship. I based some of my arguments on their lifestyle, which is irrefutably layed back compared to the US for certain.

    Give me a better one.
     
  18. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    USA more sophisticated... LOL... with more culture... LOL...

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    Thank you, a good joke to begin this boring day is welcome!

    However, if you're serious, where are your proofs?

    Edit : And what about our "lifestyle"?
     

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