The latest moon hoax documentary

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Apollo 16 - Nothing So Hidden



The history books haven't fooled them.

Here's some info on mainstream news, mainstream science, and mainstream history.
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A lot of people know the official version of history is bogus and only read revisionist history.
http://www.ihr.org/
https://heavenlybells.org/pdf/32359-lies-my-teacher-told-me-james-loewen-pdf-488-365.php
https://www.bing.com/search?q=revisionist history&FORM=AWRE

 

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You seem un certain, I won't say confused, but let me compliment you on trying to understand these things. We all are impressed. You need to perhaps narrow down the "maybe" side of things...I know it is all confusing for you but if you address one thing at a time and find a conclusion before rushing off to another maybe you may find you can pull things together and minimise the total confusion you now seem to be experiencing...now let's start with what we know..perhaps you start with what you know..for certain that is..are you sure you are not a brain in a vat and that I am not just an entity testing your responses to standard questions?

How do you know that I am not just a brain in a vat?

Now perhaps you could extend that observation to realise that we are best thinking of ourselves as a brain in a vat responding to the input we are given...you know zip and you are lucky that I can admit that...all your responses to the data re Moon trips you can not trust...the only solution is to suck your thumb are avoid eye contact with anyone who enters your room but bite them occasionally to maintain their caution.

However you are making progress as you get a glimpse that you do not know...and you will never know..you can guess but if you adopt your guess as fact you have lost...you at least realise you can not verify a thing and understanding such is a good thing..but not to become obsessive but to realise one can aintain a position of indifference both accepting and not accepting all or any position so as not to exclude there is a reality unknown to all combatants in the arguement...there is no need to back one horse in the race but enjoy watching all of them race to cross the line knowing that the one that ran last may have just been having a bad day.

You do understand that..don't you?

How could you think such a thing?
I really don't know how you arrive at these conclusions. I would love to record your thoughts here in a step by step process. Tell me do you hear voices that talk to you and put these ideas into your mind?

Let us pretend there are no voices in your head and get back to the question I asked..what proof can you offer supporting the prospect that we did not go to the Moon..try to avoid involving me or what I may think and think about .. as if you are addressing the nation and have something important to convey.
You will get off on that even though it will never happen.

Why would you say such a thing? Here I am trying to hold a rational discussion, indulging your preoccupation that we did not go to the Moon and you need to wonder if I am crazy? If I were crazy would I be talking to you? Are you concluding that the fact I am talking to you makes me crazy?

Maybe it does ..now I am confused..not really as I have extensive experience dealing with people who have your condition...I can make the necessary allowances such that we can have a reasonable discussion...you need to trust me..you do trust me don't you?

Yes it is and for that I am sorry because of all the folk here I am the only one that has given any credence to your various conjectures that the Moon movie was made on Earth...I feel embarrassed I have let your side down so much that we now invite ridicule from all sides. Only you can save the situation by proving that we did not go to the Moon ..you can do that..can't you?

Alex

 

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You seem un certain, I won't say confused, but let me compliment you on trying to understand these things. We all are impressed. You need to perhaps narrow down the "maybe" side of things...I know it is all confusing for you but if you address one thing at a time and find a conclusion before rushing off to another maybe you may find you can pull things together and minimise the total confusion you now seem to be experiencing...now let's start with what we know..perhaps you start with what you know..for certain that is..are you sure you are not a brain in a vat and that I am not just an entity testing your responses to standard questions?

How do you know that I am not just a brain in a vat?

Now perhaps you could extend that observation to realise that we are best thinking of ourselves as a brain in a vat responding to the input we are given...you know zip and you are lucky that I can admit that...all your responses to the data re Moon trips you can not trust...the only solution is to suck your thumb are avoid eye contact with anyone who enters your room but bite them occasionally to maintain their caution.

However you are making progress as you get a glimpse that you do not know...and you will never know..you can guess but if you adopt your guess as fact you have lost...you at least realise you can not verify a thing and understanding such is a good thing..but not to become obsessive but to realise one can aintain a position of indifference both accepting and not accepting all or any position so as not to exclude there is a reality unknown to all combatants in the arguement...there is no need to back one horse in the race but enjoy watching all of them race to cross the line knowing that the one that ran last may have just been having a bad day.

You do understand that..don't you?

How could you think such a thing?
I really don't know how you arrive at these conclusions. I would love to record your thoughts here in a step by step process. Tell me do you hear voices that talk to you and put these ideas into your mind?

Let us pretend there are no voices in your head and get back to the question I asked..what proof can you offer supporting the prospect that we did not go to the Moon..try to avoid involving me or what I may think and think about .. as if you are addressing the nation and have something important to convey.
You will get off on that even though it will never happen.

Why would you say such a thing? Here I am trying to hold a rational discussion, indulging your preoccupation that we did not go to the Moon and you need to wonder if I am crazy? If I were crazy would I be talking to you? Are you concluding that the fact I am talking to you makes me crazy?

Maybe it does ..now I am confused..not really as I have extensive experience dealing with people who have your condition...I can make the necessary allowances such that we can have a reasonable discussion...you need to trust me..you do trust me don't you?

Yes it is and for that I am sorry because of all the folk here I am the only one that has given any credence to your various conjectures that the Moon movie was made on Earth...I feel embarrassed I have let your side down so much that we now invite ridicule from all sides. Only you can save the situation by proving that we did not go to the Moon ..you can do that..can't you?

Alex

 

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How am I supposed to prove it? I'm not a government employee with a high security clearance. All I have is a bunch of anomalies that prove the footage and pictures were taken in a studio on Earth. You don't seem to think this means very much. I suspect that you regret coming clean and admitting the footage was faked so you're trying to control the damage by acting as if you were slightly touched to try to make the viewers think that only people who are slightly touched would think the missions were faked. This is similar to the disinfo agents who say the missions were faked and also say the Earth is flat to try to make the viewers think that only nut jobs would think the moon missions were faked.

 

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Well Freddy you have built up a persona where what I ask would not seem an unreasonable request.

You have stood up to lead all of us out of Moon landing ignorance...to open our eyes..to inform us of things our ignorance excluded from our view...but now you present as a mere mortal...I for one am crushed..no more heros for me...

You can't turn to your loyal followers and say "How am I supposed to prove it"... it does not work that way...
You have to give us something... this roll over just won't do.

I felt you had something, I put my faith in you to show everyone that we did not go to the Moon...how do you think I feel to be publicly embarrassed by your truthful admission that you have nothing. My last chance to claim I knew someone important gone..I shall never recover.

I am not saying you let me down at all, in fact I can still find something admirable in so far as you have admitted you are unable to prove a non Moon landing after all...even I can see it takes a hero to admit they have been wrong and admit such in public. Maybe you can still be my hero.

I think it is very nice.

Now come on we both know the Earth is flat ..I hope you are not going to suck up to those folk who claim the Earth is a globe...just look outside what do you see..a flat Earth...and perhaps we can learn something here..what we see may not always reflect the reality..the real reality that is.

So to sum up...you can't prove we did not go to the Moon, you have the smarts to realise that, you can download videos and look at them, and you have the courage to engage me and conceed defeat...for that you have my respect..but as I have grown to like you I offer you this advice..unless you have a financial interest in pushing the gear you have been pushing just give it up...these things, all things, turn on belief...and you can offer what you consider facts upon facts but they are irrelevant...but in committing to one side or the other you destroy most of your life,.particularly if you take a stand on big issues,.look if you want to believe we did not go to the Moon that is ok but to try and change others views is just plain stupid..conversely you can take the opposite view and engage an opposite belief,..waste of time firstly secondly actualy does physical damage to your body,..know what you know and be content to keep it private,.. most of the world will believe something different why waste time trying to bring everyonr to your side,...stupid and niave...you can..must do better.

Are you going to give up your trolling and get a real life..if only you could redirect your good attributes I feel you could enjoy life better,become respected etc...if you need help I will help you but please give up on the Moon crap it will not get you anywhere.
Alex

 

I doubt you really believe that but I'll post these videos just in case.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rocketcam

If you go high enough, you can see the curvature of the Earth.

 

Such irony is almost laughable. I think the level of ignorance of standard youtube posters is in double digit IQ territory. If you even attempt to rely on the comments from dipshits to support your case it becomes a matter of you being king of the dungheap.

For those who do not know who this clown is:




There is some frightening stuff in those videos (end of number 2 is over 1000 identical posts on old youtube on hundreds of videos!).



This is why he attacks the user "Betamax101", to say the bloke has handed him his ass is an understatement, yet here he is with his same duplicate responses insisting "nobody has debunked anything".

The aptly named:

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/

Edit:

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/06/dunning-kruger-effect.html

That was posted in 2011 and refers back at least 5 years to his activity beginning - 15 years?? My god people who kill get less time in prison sometimes.

 

Now thats what I am talking about..you are smart enough to see through my subtle approach..you saw right away I was only pretending to be a flatearther...you are quick..not many folk would have spotted that I was joking...but you did ..maybe you could get a job where you are paid for thinking after all...but tell me why have you waited so long to show us your talents? You come here at first presenting as a fool but now you are picking up on my clever subdifuge...we underestimated you .

That is a rather extrodinary claim...do you have proof.

I just stood on the table and I did not see any curvature..well a little in the table top but I had an extrodnarily big meal tonight...ok the world is flat in some places and a globe in other places.... but at least the Earth is the center of the solar system ..we know that from the bible...do you read the bible?
I do ..that's why I have all the answers..but you probably already figured that.

Have you worked out a new interest yet...it will be good for you..the Moon thing .can never go anywhere...mind you if you have a book..a couple of boxes of unsold stuff please go ahead with the Moon conspiracy stuff...there is a quid in it and, there are lots of gullible people to sell books to..

But once all the books are out of the way find something better...you don't want to go around with folk pointing at you as being an idiot...unless there is big money in it...

Now just promise me you will give up on this Moon stuff and show me you have a new plan where you can make money, hold respect and get laid..you need all..balance is key.
Alex

 

I certainly know who he is, a fraud that as I said has been banned elsewhere like his craig2 mate. He proves that by lacking the intestinal fortitude to answer my questions.

For the umpteenth time Freddy old boy, NO.... I will not jump through your hoops and watch anything you serve up. Reason being is every so called anomaly that has ever been fabricated by the nutty conspiracy brigade of this world, has been debunked, refuted, and rubbished, over many years. Every last one! Some by experts and professionals.
Yet you come here and seek to practice your fraudulent ways again?
Go home and sleep it off Freddy and stop acting like a psychotically delusional ignorant nut....you have won no one here or elsewhere that you have been practising your fraudulent craft..

 

Thanks to Dave.....
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/07/whistleblowers-governments-and-lies.html

Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax
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Thursday, July 21, 2011


Wow!!! How long have you been posting your fraud Freddy? Are you getting payed for it?

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The most certain fact after the Moon landings, is that no one believes you Freddy.
So Freddy, why all the dishonest aliases?
Why all the lies and obvious fraud Freddy?
Are you being paid Freddy?

 

https://bgr.com/2019/01/23/moon-landing-conspiracy-new-theory/

There’s a new fake Moon landing theory, and it’s dumber than you could possibly imagine
By Mike Wehner @MikeWehner
January 23rd, 2019 at 9:03 PM

NASA’s Apollo 11 mission landed astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on the Moon in July of 1969, but that’s not what some would have you believe.

Conspiracy theories about NASA having allegedly faked the Moon landings are not new. They all focus on the idea that NASA shot footage of supposed lunar excursions in a movie studio right here on Earth, but a new theory by a seasoned conspiracy pusher really takes the cake in terms of utter absurdity.

Jay Weidner, an author and filmmaker who has proposed theories that include the Sun awakening higher levels of human consciousness and the government’s alleged use of airborne chemicals to keep us complacent, has now weighed in on the Moon landings, and boy am I glad he did.

As Express reports, Weidner made some bold claims on a recent radio show that included NASA faking video footage of the Moon landings to fool the Russians, but then actually landing on the Moon at the same time anyway. Wait… what?

“I think they just decided for publicity reasons that it was probably better to have somebody do it here on Earth,” Weidner claimed. ““Then they could go about their business and not reveal their secret equipment to the Soviet Union during the middle of the Cold War.”

And who would have been responsible for ensuring that the faked footage looked realistic? Well our good friend Stanley Kubrick of course! Kubrick, whose name has been attached to fake Moon landing conspiracies for literally decades, gets credit from Weidner as the mastermind behind the “fake” footage of Neil Armstrong setting foot on the lunar surface.

This half of the theory is nothing new, but it’s Weidner’s insistence that NASA did indeed land on the Moon is what really makes this claim a special flavor of crazy.

“I’m not saying we did not go to the Moon,” Weidner said. “I believe we did go to the Moon.” He goes on to insist that NASA went to the Moon but just didn’t want to show the public the actual footage of the event because the Russians might have been watching.

NASA, for its part, has always insisted that the footage of its several Moon landings and excursions are genuine, and considers any doubts to be an insult to the countless men and women who made the missions possible.

 

So we have now two conflicting approaches which are both worthy of presentations.

We went to the Moon and the footage was produced on Earth or we went to the Moon and the footage came from the Moon.
Oh both have us on the Moon...damn.

The good thing is Freddy must now abandone his video posting and embrace his new understanding and gateway to the rest of his life.
We have saved Freddy from stupidity and we can all be proud.
Alex

 

That's one reason I noticed, one of his handles is my name and initial! Kept seeing it everywhere. He has left an internet trail like a defecating herd of elephants

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I'll tell you what motivates me. The censorship motivates me. On almost all mainstream sites that have comment sections at the bottom of the articles only inside-the-box comments are allowed. If there's something that goes against the official version, it gets deleted fast. If there were no censorship, most people would have seen the hoax proof a long time ago. The only way to thwart the censorship is to post summaries of the hoax proof on the few forums where it's permitted. I always stay and debate until the discussion plays out. That's not spamming. Spam is unwanted emails.

I'm still waiting for you to respond to this.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/the-latest-moon-hoax-documentary.163196/page-8#post-3645559

 

And you are getting paid?

Anything going against undeniable fact should certainly be deleted.

You are obviously suffering from psychotic delusional syndrome.

Not true. You have been proven to be a troll and a fraud.

All supposed anomalies have been explained over many years by professionals. It's only the gullible trolling fools that keep asking and repeating themselves.


So Freddy, why all the dishonest aliases?
Why all the lies and obvious fraud Freddy?
Are you being paid Freddy?

 

I've addressed this before. When I would get banned for politely arguing that the moon missions were faked and making the shills look silly, I would wait a month or two and go back with a different name. If I'd never gotten banned, I'd still have the original username. I never do anything that would get me banned on a forum with objective moderators.

Translation:

That anomaly is so clear that if I try to obfuscate it, I'll look as silly as Betamax looked so I'd better sidestep the issue with a lame excuse.

 

No you get banned for preaching nonsense and trolling as well as lying, as your many handles prove.
The Moon landings are fact that history rightly records as fact.
There is no evidence to dispute this fact, only the rhetorical rantings of ratbags.

 

That is most certainly correct and accurate....

Let's show once and for all, the stupidity, the criminality, the deviousness that this Freddy often uses to infest sites such as this.
here......
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/th...nclude-that-vaccines-can-cause-autism.163277/

and the words of the Mod that thankfully closed it.......
Mod Note

Your previous thread with the same subject matter was closed because you were advocating a public health risk.

The owner of this website then deleted it because of the utter rubbish you were pushing.

And your response is to start not one, but two threads with the same links and subject matter?

Thread closed.

Enjoy your break from this website.

 

Go back and read what I said about this in post #196.

This statement doesn't make the anomalies that prove the hoax go away.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/the-latest-moon-hoax-documentary.163196/page-6#post-3645387
https://www.giraffeboards.com/showthread.php?t=31034

Go back and read post #181 again.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/the-latest-moon-hoax-documentary.163196/page-10#post-3645673

See my second response.

That discussion is prohibited here. If you want to talk about it, come over to this thread.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286342

 

No to the first...all have been debunked by experts over many years and to the second, there are no unexplained anomalies except in the mind of a few trolls, liars and gullible fools.