Absolutely Nothing: Atheists on What They Know About What They Pretend to Discuss

Alex

Anyways. Did you enjoy the movie?
I thought it would have been more effective with an “mission impossible” type soundtrack.
Anyways. Let’s discuss it.

 

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Impact on Evolution

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/

 

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Still waiting for your answer.

To remind you, that was a question, not a statement - so it can't be dishonest. So what, specifically, is baloney? Radiocarbon dating? Oxygen isotope dating? Comparative anatomy? Physics? Geology? What, specifically, are you denying? All those are not hypotheses, they are fields of science.

You are getting there! Yes, experts know more than you. You can become an expert too if you like, and a great many people do. Then you will understand what they do. That is a good goal.

That's education.

And no, it doesn't have to be accepted. Come up with a better theory and you'll win a Nobel prize. But 'it was a God-zap! Really! And you're stupid if you don't take that on blind faith!' is not a better theory.

That particular skink evolved INTO a snake - specifically a limbless reptile that moves by slithering. Sorta blows your "one thing can't evolve into another thing" right out of the water, doesn't it? Sorry about that.

https://www.livescience.com/3053-evolution-action-lizards-losing-limbs.html

 

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Your question has nothing to do wit what we’re discussing.

You are sneaking in the idea that darwinism, and those animals turning into whales, are scientific facts. So far you’ve given absolutely nothing to indicate that it s so. So stick to the topic, and remain honest.

And you need to wake up.

In their particular field of expertise, yes.
But they don’t necessarily know more than me, in general, outside of their field.

It’s not necessarily a good goal.

No. That’s indoctrination, which is the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically. Forcing people to learn darwinism, Is indoctrination because as everyone here has demonstrated, there is absolutely no evidence that hippos turn into whales, other than an imaginary story.
If Mary Schweitzer knows what’s good for her career, she’d best choose her words carefully, when talking about dinosaur soft tissue.

Stop lying.

 

You don't know what you are talking about when you talk about "darwinism". Neither does anyone else.

The evolutionary sequence from earlier ancestors to living whales is unusually well documented.

Darwinian evolution is one of the basic theories of biological science. Anyone who wants to learn biology (or a biological science, such as medicine) has to learn it because it's fundamental in their field, just as anyone who wants to learn physics or a related science has to learn Newton's Laws of Motion.

No one expects anyone to learn, let alone "accept", Darwinian evolutionary theory uncritically - that probably isn't even possible, with any scientific theory.

There is plenty of evidence that hippos and whales share a common ancestor not too long ago (lots of fossils of exactly the right type and sequence, genetic correlations of the right kinds, etc.). What is this weird language of "hippos turning into whales"? Nobody claims that hippos turned into whales.

That is Mary Schweitzer's particular field of expertise. It isn't yours. You planning on taking your own advice any time soon?

 

If faith tells the truth, skepticism tells the lies. No matter what faith is just as valid scientifically as skepticism. And you would know that.

 

That is a completely incoherent statement.....

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Respect is earned Jan, and I have good reason for having none for you...One of course being that previously I did offer an olive branch for us both to cease insults, and as per all the reputable links you have been given, and the actual personal accounts from the likes of James and Billvon, you either ignored them and/or purposely misinterpreted them.
You have been 100% shown to be a liar and redefining words to suit your agenda, and then demand we must all jump through your hoops when you act all pretentious crying that we cant answer your questions when you have absolutely no intention in the world of accepting any answer anyway.
You are a charlatan and a fraud Jan, but that obviously fits in with your standards of belief.

 

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Love the above two posts from Jan...One shows desperation and being painted into a corner, the other another attempt to change the subject matter.

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Another example of a poor attempt at redefining a statement.

Darwinism and the theory of evolution are undoubtedly fact.

Another example of lies from Jan and the pot/kettle syndrome he badly suffers from.

Remember Jan previously whinging to James and playing the victim re insults he has received from others in this thread.
There we have the pot/kettle syndrome played out again.

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Your peers on this forum will be the judge of that.

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More lies, more misinterpretations, and more pt/kettle syndrome.

Mary is the expert and has made her findings along with her learned colleagues, as dictated by the scientific method. You are an also ran that lacks the knowledge, the logic and any respect and are confined thankfully, to a remote forum where in time your nonsensical inane comments will be lost in cyber space.

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Words are cheap Jan, and I have already given the proof of you being the liar as well as redefining of words.

 

In that case I refuse to answer your question on the grounds it will incriminate you.

Jan what do you need with more answers, you have your good book it has an answer for everything...how to manage your slaves, where to take your unruly child to be put to death by stoning, what size stick you can beat your wife with....

Thank you... that is some indication you are at least reading my message..how do you hear my written words? Hmmm auditory halucination ...we all know what that is a symptom of hmmm and then there is the imaginary friend thing ..it's pretty clear why you have the ego issues... but at least try to stop projecting your flaws onto others for now at least until you recover from your severe crushing.

Inconvenient and there is never any room for me to put my stuff....oh wait are you talking to yourself now?

Thank you for sharing your personal experience as a cult member it's a pity that you can't escape...it sounds terrible.

First projecting your flaws onto others, now here you are talking to yourself ...I wasn't sure but it is clear that..Paddos crushing has done more damage than I first thought...next you will be talking to an imaginary friend...oh I get it now it's your imaginary friend you are showing this thread to...you poor thing.

And now you are babbling ...I did tell you that you can't reject something until it's existence has been established, there is no point in rejecting the Easter bunny, Santa etc there is no need.

I don't hate anything least of all mythical characters or are you talking to yourself again?

I certainly did enjoy it...I gave that post a like.

Subtle as a brick to the head.
I think some realistic splashing sounds, a little bit of barking maybe better still an uplifting hyme...who do we thank for such a profound cartoon...what a great way to help young minds grasp the science of Evolution.

Some other time ..your hands are obviously full at the moment....coping with your recovery.

Alex

 

How so?

No they’re not.

Not true.
James can confirm that when he returns.
Neither did I send any subliminal messages for anyone to be band, in any of my responses.
I regard that as particularly low, and suspect.

Most of them are biased like yourself, so I wouldn’t put any trust in their judgements.

So why don’t you explain why you think it is a misinterpretation and a lie?

You have no proof.
I easily defeated your claims. So much so that you just ignored my post and carried on with the same accusations.

Notice I didn’t accuse you of anything in this post. No name calling or insults.
I just responded to your post.
Let’s see if you really did offer an olive branch, as you said in your previous post, and just respond to what I said.

 

More like he was standing in the corner when they poured the slab.

But wasnt it a great little cartoon so useful to introduce young folk to the science of Evolution, I can see why Jan liked it as it would have been much more managble for him. I like it so much I think I will watch it again.

Folk better not let their dogs swim too long in the ocean I guess.

I wonder is there one for monkeys turning into humans or humans turning into monkeys ... a cartoon would be a great way to introduce the concept of common ancestor...

I like Jan he is just so funny the poor thing.

Alex

 

Alex, what’s wrong?

 

Just everything Jan.
I have been so worried about the Christians in USA putting themselves and the wider community at risk, as you know I respect their beliefs but I do think they should follow the government directives as the bible sets out most clearly.
Alex

 

It had everything to do with what is being discussed and support for Darwinism and the theory of evolution. Stop playing the fool.

Yes they are.

Hmmm, Just as I have shown you to have lied previously, or maybe its a case of dementia, it appears we have another similar denial again. Gee Jan go easy with me, I hate having to go back searching as I am a lazy bastard, but in your case I'll show again how you either lie, or are simply demented. The following....

Yaeh we know...the whole world is biased except me!!

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And while they may have laughed at Galilleo, they also laughed at Ja.. sorry I mean Bozo the clown.

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Already explained and three examples given supporting that fact.

None that you are capable of understanding obviously, and none that will crack your gullible fear of the unknown and sky daddy mythical remedy.

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More pot/kettle/black syndrome again!

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If you call lying and playing the ignorant fool responding.

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How many times do you really need to be told Jan? I'm not jumping through your hoops, and particularly since all your questions have been answered, and you once again, are being less then sincere and honest.

 

Go back and read it again.
He asked me those question independently of his claim. Their only relationship to darwinism was a sneaky assumption that darwinism was a scientific fact.

Then we have to agree to disagree.

How are those exerts proof of me running to James about being insulted?

You said earlier you wanted a truce in the insults. I am not insulting you, and I am responding to your posts in a proper manner.
I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about, when you say you’ve explained 3 times.
So why not start, and explain it to me without the need for insults, so we can discuss it and move on. Is that a reasonable request?

Really?
Come on man.
We’re both grown men men.
Let’s act mature, and have a discussion,

Fair enough.
If that’s how you want to see it, there’s not much I can do about that.

 

And there we have it Ladies and Gentlemen...remain ignorant, dumb, gullible, and forever deny the finality of death, and instead pretend a forever in heaven or in the case of evil Atheists, hell

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Don't make me laugh! I have already been subject to your redefining of statements and purposeful lying. This is just a continuation of that.

Yep, but at least Ihave science and the scientific method on my side, rather then unevidenced mythical claims.

So English is your second language? Or is this more redefining?

Yes, but I expected some honesty also.

Sorry Jan, I'm sick of repeating myself. Lets just say that redefining Atheism to imply god exists is dumb, real dumb.

I find that difficult with you at this time, due to the reasons I have stated.

Jan, go back 4 or 5 pages...read all the posts and interactions between you, and I. If you are honest, you will recognise that you have changed definitions, and/or lied on at least three occasions that I have listed specifically.

 

Rather than act like this, why don’t we have a discussion?
I’m sorry that I don’t feel the hurt and humiliation that you are intending to project.
You said earlier you extended an olive branch, is that offer still on the table?