Corona Virus 2019-nCoV

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  1. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Possibly a worth while exercise:
    Source JHU 12/3/2020 9.33am

    Total Confirmed cases since onset :
    tc =125795
    Total recovered:
    tr=66998
    Total deaths
    td=4615
    Total still active of confirmed cases
    ta= 54182

    (tc -tr-td = ta)

    Notes :
    Recovered from the virus stats may not consider those still recovering from collateral complication.
    Deaths do not include collateral deaths associated with over whelmed medical services or other more subtle factors.
    All figures are based on reporting. It can be presumed that many cases are not being reported to authorities for various reasons including the lack of testing kits etc.
    Information lag is considerable given the rapidly changing circumstances.
     
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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    People are not worried about dieing..it's the prospect of no toilet paper that is causing panic.
    Alex
     
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    The fear will do more damage than the virus. We managed millions of deaths in the two world wars. Consider the deaths each hour from starvation...mmm not a problem.

    Alex
     
  8. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    yesterday,
    China, confirmed new cases 25, new death 12.
    Why China is improving? but other places exploded?
     
  9. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    US will ban almost all flights from Europe to US (except UK),
    how will this impact the airline industry and tourism business?
     
  10. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    How do you think, you halfwit?
     
  11. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Firstly, that’s if the numbers from China can be trusted.
    But if they can, then their improvement is because they have pretty much instigated an Orwellian clampdown on personal freedom of movement. People are mandated to remain in their houses. Deliveries to/from the houses are controlled etc.
    Maybe it has worked... I mean, if you stop people congregating, the virus has nowhere else to go, and China is one of the countries that can most easily limit the movement of people on an individual basis. The problem is that if/now they have it under control in their own country, they need to stop new cases arriving across its borders, and that will be a long term effort.
    In Europe and the US, for example, we are far more reluctant to effectively lock everyone in their houses. Even when the government here in the uk closes schools and asks people to self-isolate, they are still allowed out of their houses, and we currently leave it to the individual to police their own behaviour.
     
  12. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Buy some shares in an airline or US tourism company and find out.

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    It will certainly tank the stock markets a few more % points... so seems a bizarre move from a President more concerned about the Dow than most other things. It’s also an odd move to exclude UK from the ban, as people wanting to go to the US will just fly from the UK. Obviously not in the same numbers, but still.
     
  13. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    The Dow closed at 19,827.25 on Inauguration Day, Jan. 20, 2017,
    now
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    it seems likely that we will see over 3 years of gains erased in under 3 weeks
    ......................
    are we having fun yet?
     
  14. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    The FTSE 100 is currently at 5,500. The last time it was that low was around 24 July 2012.
    May mean I have to work a few more years, though.

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  15. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    I think it will exclude anyone who has been in the Schengen area in the last 14 day period. So they can't use the UK to get around the ban in that way.

    In the short/medium term will it go the other way and will US tourists be banned from ,say China?

    They must be feeling pretty good in their own circumstance right now as it seems they may have weathered the storm.

    Perhaps they could even provide help to other countries if they have qualified staff available that are now immune to this infection.
     
  16. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Great point!
    If they can be confident that they have produced critical care medical personnel (or other) that are immune they have a great export potential by providing international services in high risk areas...
     
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  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    The formula 1 race for Melbourne has apparently been cancelled due to conerns re virus and there is a high probability that the Royal Easter Show in Sydney will not go on.
    Alex
     
  19. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    WHO SR 12-03-2020
    Outside China cases: last 24 hour growth rate : 15.21%

    Massive chaos here in Australia regarding large gatherings and general shock.
    a big recession appears inevitable.
    but as a pensioner I get a hand out.... can go to the dentist now...
     
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  20. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    According to JHU 13-03-2020
    Reported only:
    Confirmed : 128,343 (c)
    Deaths : 4,720 (d)
    Recovered : 68,324 (r)
    --------
    Active cases = 55,299 (a)

    (c-d-r = a)
     
  21. LaurieAG Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly, the ratio of Recovered/Confirmed infections since the beginning of the month shows the trend.

    March, 1 - 46.2
    March, 2 - 50.6
    March, 3 - 52.7
    March, 4 - 54.4
    March, 5 - 55.8
    March, 6 - 56.3
    March, 7 - 56.0
    March, 8 - 55.1
    March, 9 - 56.3
    March, 10 - 55.9
    March, 11 - 55.2
    March, 12 - 54.1
    March, 13 - 53.2
     
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  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    And all done without issuing umbrellas to stop bat mites dropping onto people. Impressive, huh?

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  23. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Word from a friend who is the General Manager of a local major Super Market here, says that they are preparing to entirely switch to online/phone ordering to prevent panic buying and provide Uber type services to those in quarantine or isolation.

    It seems likely that major Supermarkets will shut their doors to general walk in and switch to online order online ( phone even) and pick up systems with in the next couple of weeks. (Australia)
    They are hiring and training staff just for this apparently...

    Am thinking about deliberately getting infected because the hospitals are currently able to cope...but then again... lol
     
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