How do you deal with anti-science?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Jeeves, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The box has never claimed to be "complete" but it is extensive, and you are still ignorant of the most basic knowledge within, and that is continually shown on this forum every time you decide to post/troll. Your last question of course that you have been told of at least 3 or 4 times, regarding the Superforce.
    Sideshow bob makes a valid point...
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    But if you don't understand the box - and you don't - it's your understanding that is incomplete.
     
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  5. river

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    Give an example of what you mean .
     
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  7. river

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    What is this " Superforce " pad ?
     
  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Come back when you grow up river. The superforce has been explained to you a couple of times, so you are either demented or a liar in asking for an explanation again. And also if you were genuine [which you are certainly not] you have the Internet.

    Bye river.
     
  9. river

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    BYE , BYE , BYE , BYE , BYE , pad .

    But before you go what is this " Superforce " you talk of ?

    Well explain for the third time pad ; but you can't , because your full of BS pad . You have no idea .
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Take it easy river! Calm down...a disprin and a good lay down may relieve the pressures you are under.

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    No, I won't explain the third time river, at least not to you...as others have noted more then once, you would just troll if I did give you the answer.
    But if you are serious about learning, [

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    giggle] try getting a book by Paul Davis, entitled "Superforce" I have it in my collection.
    Glad to be of help anyway.
     
  11. river

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    Good .

    Now then , what about his theory do you like ?
     
  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    What theory?
    Do you understand the Superforce?
    What don't you like about the superforce? [if you indeed understand it]which is obviously no.
     
  13. river

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    What theory.... ?
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Ahaa! I thought so. So you don't know what you are talking about river?
    OK, sorry for the difficult questions.
     
  15. river

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    Its a theory pad .
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Tell me about it then, c'mon.

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    And please don't do the idiot thing and confuse the everyday meaning of theory to that of a scientific theory...you do know the difference? No?
     
  17. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    And claims of Alien piloted UFO's visiting Earth are unsupported at best, and mythical at worst, and the rantings of gullible people.
     
  18. river

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    You brought this Superforce up , pad , explain it . To us all . pad .
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I often do not deal well with anti science folk in so far as I don't always find I enter the conversations with a respect that one should happily extend to all humans indeed all things if we want go deep.

    Being here has helped me be more respectful of anti science folk to a limited degree.

    The experience of encounter has caused me to often think how they see it.

    I was fortunate to have a mate who absolutely believed in tarot cards, was into much weird stuff... as you could expect I was critical presenting my scientific reality as an exclusion to his beliefs..you don't cook meat as that takes the life out of it..it never came up but I would bet..antivaxer...well he was now that I recall..I recall we had an argument about it..yes we did...no one won..latter however much latter probably three hours..the subject can up how his Mum was cured of some condition with injections...he knew I knew...but I bet he is still an antivaxer...folk send stuff they don't like before anything else to the recycle bin...convenient memory.

    But he drove me to realise that is how he saw the world.

    I am confused but in those moments that I can see it somehow the way they see it and then how they can only see the world and all this without judgement..well I would like to call it...enlightenment. Then casually recall that we have seven billion humans...mmm how many would you not agree with...


    And I must add tarot card mate could do anything, and had, building, mechanics, ...full cred ...I have mentioned him before...

    And so knowing a meeting with anti science usually goes downhill I resolve to be polite respectful and any angst be released by mild non offensive humour...it can go wrong usually does...but I have learnt if you cause offense settle things down with a sincere apology giving in effect respect to their world and more importantly them as a human being.

    Meeting them with a condescending lecture is rarely taken as respect if it hints at arrogance.

    And one need remember you can not change belief with facts or logic...or force..you could beat a man half to death and he will still believe whatever it is he believes.

    Now I like a fight or an argument perhaps more than I should but when I retain the approach of putting human respect first I remain calm and continue to think straight...troll resistant as well.

    I do get worked up in an unhealthy way when I see "it's only a theory"
    If someone is reasonable I will explain the concept of theory in science and suggest reading Carl Poppers philosophy clarification of what science is, is not, what is required that justifies the respect of all reasonable humans.
    Goto go I am watching some paint dry.
    Alex
     
  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I don't need to explain it to most.
    But if you insist in me explaining it to you, I must first ask you some questions...
    Are you aware of the concept of something being denser? and Hotter?
    Can you describe to me what the BB theory of universal evolution basically is?
    Are you aware of the Planck epoch? and t+10-43 seconds?
    Just a sentence or two river, then I'll commence your mainstream education as simply as possible convey to you what is seen as the superforce.
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Explaining to them can be difficult, but on some occasions, it is impossible when they just do not want to learn, and have some inane interpretation about the universe, life and everything, and what generally makes it worse, is coupled with delusions of grandeur, when they pretentiously try and refute the standing accepted model, in favour of myths debunked hypotheticals and nonsense.
    Yep, generally used by brain-washed creationists, but on other occasions, like this one, also used by ignorant people as described in the first paragraph.
     
  22. river

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    pad explain this " Superforce " theory .
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, when you show you are capable of understanding it and answer the questions I have put to you..
    And of course now it is obvious you are trolling.
     

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