How does water not spin off the earth?

Q-reeus said:
My troll alert sensors are flashing red. Checking out Spencer666's other recent thread
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/how-can-a-rocket-land-on-the-moon.162680/
reveals a consistent pattern. Easy to predict 'she' will never graciously concede and thank the genuinely helpful intentions posters for 'enlightening' 'her'. That would spoil the shit-stirring fun. Sure hope I'm wrong.
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I suspect accusing somebody of being a troll would be a first response from somebody trying to cover up truths who work for the gov etc!
 
Gawdzilla Sama said:
More generally, escape velocity is the speed at which the sum of an object's kinetic energy and its gravitational potential energy is equal to zero; an object which has achieved escape velocity is neither on the surface, nor in a closed orbit (of any radius).
Escape velocity - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Escape_velocity
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An escape velocity is not required to leave the atmosphere !

An escape force is required .


We could technically climb up a ladder into space if we had a big enough ladder !
 
Spencer666 said:
I suspect accusing somebody of being a troll would be a first response from somebody trying to cover up truths who work for the gov etc!
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Well I did end with 'Sure hope I'm wrong'. Now leaning more towards 'somewhat strange'. Still early days so will look in every now and then to see how your journey here progresses.
Sadly, unlikely to ever be a happy one.
 
Spencer666 said:
I suspect accusing somebody of being a troll would be a first response from somebody trying to cover up truths who work for the gov etc!
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You've got it wrong there, I'm afraid.

Q-reeus is in fact the pseudonym of a notorious Russian, from the troll farm in St Petersburg, whose mission is to stir up discord in the scientific community in the West and thereby blunt its technological edge.

Whereas I am one of the Illuminati Lizard People.
 
Spencer666 said:
You put the hollow part in ! I do not think the earth is hollow although there maybe some amount of space in the core .
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The hollow part comes from checking

Admiral Richard E. Byrd's Missing Diary
A Flight to the Land Beyond the North Pole Into the Hollow Earth

mentioned in your post

Spencer666 said:
Actually no , I am not a flat earther .

I suspect the Earth is spherical but a considerable super massive amount bigger than we are lead to believe . I suspect what we are shown as the entire earth , is actually just the north or south pole of a much bigger super earth .

Consider a circle surrounded by a wall of ice , on top of a ''football''

RICHARD BYRD a land the size of America discovered ?
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although there maybe some amount of space in the core

Umm no - molten dense cores do not have space

Consider a circle surrounded by a wall of ice , on top of a ''football''

Do you happen to have a map / drawing or other visual graphic of this please?

:)
 
Spencer666 said:
An escape velocity is not required to leave the atmosphere !

An escape force is required .


We could technically climb up a ladder into space if we had a big enough ladder !
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That would put us into orbit, but would it allow us to ESCAPE the Earth's gravity well? (You may want to google "gravity", you seem to have a knowledge gap there.)
 
exchemist said:
You've got it wrong there, I'm afraid.

Q-reeus is in fact the pseudonym of a notorious Russian, from the troll farm in St Petersburg, whose mission is to stir up discord in the scientific community in the West and thereby blunt its technological edge.

Whereas I am one of the Illuminati Lizard People.
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My cover blown. Damn. Time to go to ground and wait this out.:eek:
 
Spencer666 said:
An escape velocity is not required to leave the atmosphere !
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True
Spencer666 said:
An escape force is required
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Not clear exactly what you mean by this. Suspect something to do with
Spencer666 said:
We could technically climb up a ladder into space if we had a big enough ladder !
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and the force being the sum total of the energy of expended on each of the steps up the ladder

Escape Velocity is required if you wish to travel totally out beyond the Earth's gravity

However long before you go beyond Earth's gravity field you will be in another gravity field

The Lagrange Point (L1 for two bodies) is a point where the forces of gravity from two bodies sum to exactly the forces needed to remain in orbit

L1 of the Earth-Moon system is a little over 326,000 km from the center of the Earth

Reach this point, from Earth, and the Moon's gravity will begin to pull

Reach this point, from Moon, and Earth's gravity will begin to pull

:)
 
Gawdzilla Sama said:
That would put us into orbit, but would it allow us to ESCAPE the Earth's gravity well? (You may want to google "gravity", you seem to have a knowledge gap there.)
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If your ladder was 35786 km high and extended from the Equator, then you be in a geosynchronous orbit at the top. Somewhat lower than that would allow you to go into an elliptical orbit. It would be possible to work out the minimum height the ladder would need to be to keep the perigee from dipping into the atmosphere, if you wanted to go to the trouble.
Now if you made the ladder even higher (53138.23 km or more) You could escape the Earth's gravity well, but only because the end of the ladder would be moving around the Earth faster than escape velocity from that altitude.*
Even if you put the ladder extending from the pole where you couldn't take advantage of the Earth's spin, if you made it tall enough ( and by tall, I mean REALLY TALL), you would eventually reach the point were your climbing speed exceed the escape velocity at your distance from the Earth.
The point is, that in order to escape the Earth's gravity, you do have to reach "escape velocity", it just doesn't have to be the escape velocity value at the surface of the Earth, just the escape velocity value for your present location with respect to the Earth.( With this we ignoring gravitational effects from other bodies. In the practical world, you don't quite need to achieve full escape velocity to permanently leave the Earth. After you get far enough away from the Earth, the Sun's gravity begins to dominate, pulling you away from the Earth and into an independent orbit around itself.)
 
I agree. Someone is telling porky science. If something were true FOREVER, they would be time-travelling. ALL of the above claims are false and have either been disproven already, or will be at some time in the future. Either that, or the claims are built upon a foundation not of the claimants own work (the claimant has used someone else's work to make their claim, I.e. they have not done the work for their self.)

For something to be true it must be true FOREVER (without end.) The case or statement must be proven time and again with every example, and it must be stated by the workers OWN work (it was they who did it.) :)

Claims that the Earth is a sphere are false because it was not a SINGLE PERSONS effort that put man (or satellites) into space to view the Earth from that perspective. It was a team effort with later humanity building upon previous man's efforts. NOT ONE PERSON did the work for their self, and KNEW what they were doing.

It is with this in mind that I believe flat-earthers have more success, because they have done ALL of the work for their self, and as such the truth they have discovered is without end, and every counter argument WILL be disproven, leading to the fact that their statement was as they stated, prior to any such argument that could be made.

After all, from a great distance the Earth IS flat.

Statements of truth are simply a CREATION. By making a truthful statement you are negating time (which continues FOREVER) and traversing humanity's family tree until you reach the singularity (the being that spawned humanity.)

From that moment both beings continue at the same rate (both your traversed self, and YOU, who remain.) The self that traversed can never catch the self that remained, since both continue travelling...

--->--->

...and as such an eternal life is created (as stated, FOREVER is a creation.)

Imagine your surprise to travel across Earth (humanity's family tree) only to find that YOU also remained. Imagine the even GREATER surprise to explain to the singularity HOW to traverse time, only for Him to be stranded alone in the dark, FOREVER!

Fortunately, since the previous self cannot catch the present self, breathing exercises may be maintained while asleep: when the heart expands, you expand your lungs; when the heart beats, you contract your lungs. Eventually the life ceases, and the previous self CATCHES the dead, present self, and overtakes. At that moment the dead, present self exists PRIOR to the traversed self (which has overtaken), and the present self also traverses, coming to life once again at the beginning of time. Unfortunately the self that originally traversed, disappears once it has overtaken, having fulfilled it's purpose, but I would imagine it is painless without any death being involved.

---->
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:)

Time-travellers are essentially Lawyers arguing a simple case time and again, so that it simply REMAINS TRUE. I would get a move on though because when I go, my traversed self will not only disappear when he overtakes me, but the traversal itself will also disappear, and I will be without knowledge of my traversal. This post will be gone. :)

I will however tell everyone I meet how to traverse. If they don't want to, they don't have to, but it is highly recommended. :) Good luck.

P.s. once achieved the past cannot be changed. I will be aware of my traversal (forever) although it will not be present for anyone I invite hereafter. But I will tell them nevertheless. :)
 
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