And the next U.K. Prime Minister will be?

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Is the argument valid?

Poll closed Aug 11, 2019.
  1. Yes, the argument is valid

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  2. No, the argument is not valid

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  3. I don't know

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  4. The argument doesn't make sense

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  1. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Yet given a form not used in everyday language.
    To which I have given the answer, in post #7.
    And that is how I took it in post #7.
    Is their training not a part of who they are now? How are they not able to decide for themselves? Have I not decided for myself in post #7, with an answer that depends upon how one views the term "valid". Is that not me deciding for myself?
    I can not stop you guessing.
     
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  3. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    *AHEM*

    Is this a valid argument:
    P1 Hitler will be the next UK Prime Minister.
    P2 Hitler is dead.
    C Hitler is a zombie.

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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    No. I answered the poll of the thread and said that the argument was invalid. Obviously I was too concise, and that confused you. For that, I apologise.

    See? You can work it out when you try.

    I'll bear your comments in mind and dumb it down for you in future.

    Yes.
     
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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  8. Speakpigeon Valued Senior Member

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    LOL. I would be best ignoring you altogether.
    Your words: "P1 and P5 are inconsistent with C, therefore invalid."
    I asked you to clarify whether you meant that P1 and P5 were invalid since this is exactly what you actually said.
    You then just replied "No. I mean what I wrote".
    Given that what you wrote was "P1 and P5 are inconsistent with C, therefore invalid", your last statement is just plain contradictory.
    And we could go on and on and on and on. With no end in sight. Never.
    And then people wonder they get the rough treatment.
    LOL.
    EB
     
  9. Speakpigeon Valued Senior Member

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    And on and on and on and on.
    EB
     
  10. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    Glad I didn't get involved

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  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    why has no one made public comments calling johnston or hunt nazi sympathizers yet like they did corbyn
    bit of a dead give away where those antisemitic allegations were created from[inside the tory party]
    i like Borris, i think he is as mad as a 3 bob watch[British eccentricity to a tee].
    i would never vote for the conservatives though.
    he should have gone independent. had he gone independent, he would be preferred prime-minister hands down.
    Hunt looks like a made man left out on the lawn while everyone else is out the back having tea n cakes.
    it beguiles my grasp of common intellectual capability when i hear folk call corbyn a communist.
    his form of socialism is exactly the type of "nationalism" that all the voters are voting for.

    it is sad irony that they will be empowering the torys who are all about cutting up the national market and selling it off to anyone with a shiny penny and a nice smile.
    maybe Borris will stop the slash n burn of the government budgets and the selling off of all its industry's and jobs.
    he will be fighting against many to do so if he does.
     
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  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    If you replace "is not" with does not equal and "will be" with equals will the argument be valid?
     
  13. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Nobody has called Corbyn a Nazi sympathiser.

    And it would be ridiculous. All he cares about are his allotment, his manhole covers and his carefully nursed hatred of the United States.
     
  14. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    No balloon for him?
     
  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rama-antisemitism-labour-racism-jeremy-corbyn

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48995585

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party



    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...r-party-facing-anti-semitism-claims-1.3954190




    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49012361



    • 17 July 2019

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-45030552

    the anti semitism claims are obviously created by the tory party to undermine corbyns leadership by disenfranchising him from the industrial business owners by setting him up to look like he opposes weapons and arms sales and doesn't care about oil price stability.
    all being manipulated through "support for Palestinian human rights sanctioned by the united nations"

    tory sock puppet ... or you just live with your head up your ass
     
  16. geordief Valued Senior Member

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  17. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    your lie has been denuded
    you dont like it
    your trying to spin the wheel and turn it back to make it look like i am defaming someone when it is you who have been supporting a false propaganda message of defamation.

    throw in a tory catch phrase to make sure everyone knows your still on for gin n blue buttons at the next toff fair.

    yeah, go on... tell me more
     
  18. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    I just deleted my post.I got the wrong end of the stick.(I thought you were running with the idea that Corbyn might be a Nazi sympathiser- or seriously considered as such)
     
  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    fair enough, happens all the time online
    who do you think is paying media to produce these endless articles around Corbyn being anti semitic ?
     
  20. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    I think it is genuine .Some (perhaps many) members of the Jewish community seem to hold the leadership of the Labour Party accountable for not sanctioning severely enough members who use language they consider to be anti semitic.

    It is a genuine story that opponents of the Labour Party cannot resist using, fairly or with malice aforethought .

    Personally ,it seems to me to be a very grey area where Israel (under great duress) has taken the law into its own hands and yet its leaders cannot accept robust criticism (falling into the trap of playing the victim card** and painting its opponents as terrorist sympathisers.)

    I see right and wrong on both (all) sides and also a lack of international leadership which has been exacerbated by the retreat by the USA from a position of honest broker in the region.

    Corbyn is very ,very small fry in all this(I doubt he will be able to lead the Labour Party to power ,or to hold it together as a Party actually- but we know we live in politically murky times)


    **Didn't they accuse the EU of appeasing Iran a few days ago?
     
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  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i agree it would be hard to play the good jailer when someone fires 500 rockets into your family picnic
    setting all that aside
    from the UK perspective
    i imagine its al about political power of oil & trade contracts
    relationships to those preferred trade partners who can make or lose the 1 or 2% commission they make from selling to a political party member.
    a change in government could lose them their 1% commission which to the average working class labour voting yob, is more income than their entire extended family will earn in 2 life times.

    north sea oil
    north sea fish
    EU fish quotas
    French fishing Quotas
    north sea access to arctic oil...
    Global military Sea power to control illegal immigration people smuggling and illegal trade

    Corbyn doesnt really make a big difference, equally hunt or johnston, but to those trading horses behind the curtains from inside the UK
    its win or lose.
    they dont care as long as they make their commission
    Governments come, governments go
    they wont pay for your health care in old age
    social services are being cut
    ...
    who wins what with ultra nationalism ? that is probably the big question
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Speakpigeon:

    This thread is just a repeat of about 4 or 5 other threads you've posted on the same subject. You seem to have a bit of a one-track mind.

    Perhaps you are hoping to catch some people out with an "Aha!" moment where you spring out and inform them that their opinion or their answer to your poll is wrong. That would be consistent with your past behaviour.

    I've lost interest. I'm out of this thread. You have a good time now.
     
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  23. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I repeat, nobody to my knowledge has called Corbyn a Nazi sympathiser. Where, in any of these references, does anybody do that?

    What I see is accusations of antisemitism. People were antisemitic long before the Nazi party was born or thought of, you know. Read the Merchant of Venice.

    There is too much hysterical exaggeration in politics already. Do not add to it.
     

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