Reality is mathematics / Mathematics is reality ?

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  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Like a bird airodynamatics ie flapping wings ie like some of those in old black and white movies?

    A branch of the hominid classification is with 100% human DNA not 98%

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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Naahh, a top-winged Cessna. I took flying lessons when we were playing in Phoenix. Just a taste...
    understanding....

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    Just like sailing (vertical flying) uses the same principles of "lift". It's all mathematical.
    Well, human DNA is actually only 1% of the entire hominid microbiome
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biome
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Did we? Or did we copy it from insects?
    You're so avian-centric.

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    Actually I am a great admirer of insects, they could do very sophisticated things hundreds of millions of years before man even existed. I often recommend the Hellstrom Chronicle as an excellent movie about the birth and evolution of insects, in spite of its age.


    Insects invented flight, but their very variety does not provide a fundamental model, whereas all birds employ a similar highly evolved lift and propulsion system specifically evolved for carrying massive bodies very efficiently, allowing them to migrate great distances and can be used as a standard flight model.
    Hence the flapping wings on the first airplanes.

    Angels have bird-wings.....

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  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    If angels had wasp wings, we might look at them very differently...
     
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  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    We do now, in the Marvel Comics.

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  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well I certainly see an angel...

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    Gone off topic of the thread . The last few posts .
     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    True, but we can bring that back easily.
    It is quite remarkable of the many ways flight can be achieved. If we look at the variety in flight systems employed by insects, mammals, and humans, the evolutionary process of functional mathematical aerodynamic patterns becomes
    clear.

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  13. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Birds take-off backwards.

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  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    What you really mean is ...the evolutionary process of functional aerodynamic patterns becomes clear - there's no math in your examples.
     
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  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Correct, human maths explain the functional aerodynamic patterns (relative values) in great detail, symbolic of the way it really works in nature.

    And IMO, that does not falsify the logical regularity of the way it really works, it proves it!
     
  16. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Does it REALLY? Does the mathematics prove that, ON ITS OWN?!

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  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, the mathematical precision proves the mathematical potentials. On its own it just works the way it does in a manner that can be represented with mathematics.

    Human symbolic representations address the various relative values and functions and cosmologists admit to the uncanny accuracy of human symbolic mathematical representations of natural inherent universal potential for regularity.

    Self-similar mathematical values and functions are beautifully expressed in dynamic cell mitosis.
    Mitosis is a mathematical function, it's a division into equal parts.


    And here is a representation of how the function actually looks like in nature.


    For a more comprehensive lecture by Drew Berry:
    He uses a term "exquisite fidelity" as an aspect of the mathematical potentials in mitosis.


    p.s. the "travel" scaffolding consists of micro-tubules, which are biological micro computers present in all eukariotic organisms and which use electro-chemical signaling as the mathematical language for information processing.

    mitosis is a mathematical cellular "quorum sensing" (treshold) function.
     
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  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_universe_hypothesis

    Do not ask "why"? Ask "why not?" A dynamic space-time consisting of regularly repeating mathematical (ordered) patterns does not seem particularly exotic or illogical to me.

    It's rather elegant in its extreme simplicity of a few meta-physical baseline rules with the ability for creating an infinite number of complex patterns, guided by a small set of abstract ordering potentials, as essential to an orderly evolution of the 3D + Time spacetime pattern, as we know it.
     
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  19. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    I may have been wrong. You see some birds flapping across water to take-off. Birds may not take-off backwards.

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  20. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Is this information any good to you?

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    The inventors of the device used quantum mechanics to solve the dilemma of choosing between stable, long-term data storage and low-energy writing and erasing.


    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/06/190620100015.htm

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  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Except there are no "relative values" in your examples.
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Aerodynamics does not rest on values?
    Everything has a relative value. It is what distinguishes one thing from another.
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    There are no values in your examples. Show me an example of one of those values existing in nature.
     

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