Are you an introvert or extrovert?

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  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    those whom are interested in employment law & human rights and anti bullying should be aware of the latest case currently being tested where a co-worker who sat next to a person who committed suicide from being bullied by their boss is currently before the courts.

    it will be interesting to see what type of corporates support this and seek to balance employees with better emotional management of their company culture.

    the usa is the wild west of employment and the amount of work place violence seems to be quite big but it seems to be conveniently ignored by the main stream media.
    i think there may be some desire to try and keep a lid on it.

    work place bullying is as common as bullying in school yards
    it is normalised as culturally accepted part of many social structures.

    some corporates are really good with such things
    smaller companys can be hot beds of really abusive psychological conditions.

    handing tools to profile employees to people who intend to psychologically manipulate them is like giving loaded hand guns to children.
     
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  3. pluto2 Banned Valued Senior Member

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    The United States has become one of the worst societies to live in.

    I say this because there are tons of social problems like racism and gun violence in the United States.

    If American society was so perfect then why are there people like Elliot Rodger? Apparently American society produces lonely and violent people like Elliot Rodger so this just shows up how messed up American society really is.

    Personally I prefer to live in places like Europe, Africa, India, China and Australia but the United States of America definitely wouldn't be on my list.
     
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  5. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I understand, Pluto. I don’t think that anyone, anywhere though has an easy life. The US has its flaws but it has its positives, just like any country. I will say though, this obsession to achieve and strive for wealth and power, seems to be an American thing. But I don’t live my life on those terms. Geography only dictates so much.
     
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  7. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Geography imposes the framework in which one's culture evolves. The culture imprints its fundamental values* on the individual before she has any capacity for choice; later, it provides a set of rules and conditions in which that individual must survive and function. Within those constraints, there is some freedom of choice, the range and scope depending on the individual's natal and environmental circumstances.
    US culture may not be unique in its self-contradictions, but I suspect it's the most aggressive in promoting moral precepts that directly negate its social, economic and political reality.
     
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    The US is multi-cultural, and quite diverse. There isn't one core ''moral precept.'' That's the positive thing about the US - it's diverse, and I appreciate that there is a welcoming of many differing thoughts and ideas.
     
  9. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    The American values they teach in school? Land of the free; home of the brave. Pioneer spirit. Independence. Can-do positive attitude. Live and let live. Pursuit of happiness. Land of opportunity. Classless society. Dream big, work hard, any child can grow up to be a star, a millionaire or president. Mother & apple pie; Lewis & Clark; Paul & Tiny; George & Thomas; Tom & Jerry; Ben & Jerry; Davy & Dan'l; Mason & Dixon; Liberty & Justice for all, amen.

    Ya. That's one of its core myths.
     
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    I don’t want to go off topic and was just responding to Pluto. This is going wayyyy OT.
     
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  12. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    What was it again?
    Oh, yeah.
    A: it depends
     
  13. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Some days, it's hard to be an introvert. Like today. Spent all day preparing for a presentation that is coming up shortly. I've done this a few times this year already, with great success, so why am I so nervous? I'm just not feeling it, you know?

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    It's time for a little arrogance. Just consider that those in your audience aren't worthy so why get nervous...they don't count.

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    Okay, so the presentation went great. I started with ''how is everyone doing?'' I never say that crap. But today, I did. wtf? The group replied, individually...''oh, I'm doing great....Good, etc...'' My boss blurted out, ''how are you doing?'' I answered ''meh, could be better.''

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    Everyone laughed, including him. He told me after the presentation, that he wants me to do more presentations. hahaha omg, nooooooo!!

    So this is what it's like to be an extrovert.

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    This is sometimes how it goes for me, at work. I'm super nervous before a presentation, then it all somehow subsides, and I nail it. Maybe it's because I'm getting paid. Hmm.
     
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    Nice work! Part of it is just desensitization, getting used to doing it. You, initially, probably focus on "everyone is looking at me", "what if I look nervous", etc. The audience is thinking, "OK, another presentation, I hope it's not boring, I'd better pay attention, etc.".
     
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    Yesss, I see your point. Now I see why actresses get paid so much!

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    So. I have a question. Do you guys think that being an introvert has a negative connotation? Sometimes, I feel like I'm expected to be like I was, today. Bold. Confident. Gregarious. Take no prisoners. But, I just can't ''be'' like that all of the time. I felt ''on'' today, and it was fun, but I couldn't imagine being ''on'' all the time.

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    I mean, does society look more favorably on extroverts?
     
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    You mean the society that obsesses endlessly about what's being twittered about them, where everybody sends a hundred friends a picture of what they're eating, drinking and buying? The society that spends $8 billion a year on cosmetics and $30 billion on children's birthday parties?
    YES - overwhelmingly. Reticent, bookish, solitary people, if they're old are just pathetic or eccentric; young ones are suspect.
     
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    It doesn't matter how "society" views someone. You have to just be yourself. You can be confident and quiet. If you are yourself and that means being quiet then that's a more confident approach than faking it.

    That's like asking if society would like you better if you drove a Mercedes even if that meant that you were broke all the time and had no money in the bank. If the alternative is to have money in the bank and a Toyota that's probably the better approach even if "society" isn't as impressed.

    "Society" is a fickle friend.

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  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    flipping the switch on self actualization and discussing social dynamics really triggers many things.
    it brings twitches to the surface.
    holding a subconscious thought around self awareness that defines a near analytical mode to human social interaction probably rubs the shine off the magic a little.
    you should expect that.

    maybe your low-P (mansplaining)

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  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    might help to go watch some university lecturers
    they are a many & varied bunch
    quiet fascinating
    around 50% of them its like riding a bike they just get on and start pedaling regardless of the audience being all there or ready.
    they cant afford to wait for late arrivals, people to get their laptops switched on or involved in personal dialog.

    the very very gifted ones are quite amazing to watch, they involve the entire room naturally as if your at a friends having casual drinks.
     
  23. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Tell us how you really feel, Jeeves.

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    Thanks, and you're right. Spoken like a true introvert.

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    There are professors who I've had who stand out in my mind, so you're right. I've received a few emails tonight from people who complimented my presentation today. Yay me.
     
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