UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

OK, so military launch codes being kept secret are a "cover up".
Military fleet positions being kept secret are a "cover up".
Communications and radar data being kept secret are a "cover up".
So, anything not available to the public is a cover up".
Since not making every process and bit of data available to the public is required in order for them to do their jobs, the term "cover up" has no negative connotation whatever.

But since that is not the general meaning up cover up, you are obfuscating the issue.

The military had no obligation to broadcast this to the world.

You're such a drama queen...

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Didn't you just finish saying they're trying to cover it up? Disinformation is one form of covering something up.

So, which is it? Do you believe what they're telling you or don't you?
Or is that that you only believe them when you think they didn't mean it, but don't believe them when you think they did?
You can't have it both ways.

 

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They did cover it up for 12 years until those personel got out of the Navy and reported it. What's so hard to understand about this?

 

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Anything covered up is a cover up. End of story.

LOL! You're the only one creating drama here.

 

Because they get to do this.

Do you think that, generally, military personnel are free to discuss anything they wish at any time about military ops?

The end of the story is that, despite simply making the same unfounded assertion several times, you have not addressed the indicated paradox.

Not all military secrets are cover ups. Like this one, some some merely secret.

End. Of. Story.

 

All military cover-ups are cover-ups. End of story.

 

You know, I addressed you in good faith in this thread. Didn't cast aspersions or demean, stayed on-topic, with thoughtful replies. Tried to have a sincere discussion. You did not.

I double-dog end of story you.

 

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In any case it's exactly what happened. And there's certainly no reason for anyone to doubt that that is exactly what happened, unless you're some paranoid skeptic who doesn't want to believe in ufos.

 

Answerable? Sure. Completely transparent? Not and still do the job for which they are tasked.

How is this incident (the communications, the data, etc.) any different than any other operation?

Were the details of Seal Ops and Operation Neptune Spear made public (more than necessary)?

The military doesn't go around posting its operations on a blog.

Why does the public have the right to know?

 

https://www.skeptic.com/reading_roo...-73186153&mc_cid=c752ff149f&mc_eid=1866e274d6

 

It's the duck! *waves*

 

Description of link?

 

"In other words, in 2004 the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group got its radar upgrade, and soon was reporting “unidentified objects”, including the Tic Tac. In 2014-15, Carrier Air Wing One got its radar upgrade, and soon they, too, were reporting UFOs galore. One could interpret this to mean that the radars had finally gotten powerful enough to detect the UFOs that had long been knocking about. But a more prudent interpretation is that the radars had gotten powerful enough to begin detecting birds, small balloons, insect clouds, ice crystals, windborne debris, and various other things found in the atmosphere."

Looks like just a more verbose version of James R's ridiculous seagull theory.

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Ofcourse we are left mystified how birds and balloons and insects and ice crystals and "windborne debris" can be observed speeding around at hypersonic speeds and changing direction on a dime and making sudden evasive maneuvers not to mention the clear shape of the ufos captured on the infrared cameras. They presented as giant tic tacs and spinning tops and even a sphere with a cube inside of it:
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"The unidentified flying objects look like white Tic Tacs, or spinning tops flying against the wind — and Navy pilots keep reporting their presence over U.S. airspace. In interviews with the New York Times, five more pilots have come forward describing their experiences with UFOs flying off the Eastern seaboard from Virginia to Florida between 2014 and 2015.

One ten-year veteran, Lieutenant Ryan Graves, claimed that he saw UFOs almost daily, and that the objects could reach hypersonic speeds and heights of up to 30,000 feet without any visible engine or plumes of infrared exhaust. Graves, who reported his experience to the Pentagon and Congress, said, “These things would be out there all day,” and that, “with the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”

In late 2014, a pilot of a Super Hornet reported a near-collision with a UFO when an object that looked like a “sphere encasing a cube” zipped between two fighter jets flying roughly 100 feet from each other. Another pilot, Lieutenant Danny Accoin, could identify a flying object’s presence on his radar, missile system, and infrared camera but was not able to actually see it in his helmet camera. “I knew I had it, I knew it was not a false hit,” Accoin said. But still, “I could not pick it up visually.”

...What fascinated Lieutenant Graves about his interactions with the objects was their ability to stop rapidly, turn instantly, and immediately accelerate to hypersonic speed — maneuvers that would burden human pilots with unbearable G-forces. “Speed doesn’t kill you,” Graves said. “Stopping does. Or acceleration.”----- http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019...ing-ufos-on-an-almost-daily-basis-report.html

 

Alien spaceship.

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A few hours after last posting here, had an internet outage that has only just been fixed. That's why no response from me since then.
Nothing surprising in the reactions to that vid I posted. Everyone takes up their usual positions and no-one (participating here) shifts position. Yawn.
What James R left out was the impressive credentials of the four former crew members who appeared on camera. Plus one who didn't want to be filmed.
It's clearly stated in text below vid that none received any monetary payments for participation. Far more often than not such UFO (more recently UAP) event(s) witnesses are derided and ostricised by media and public rather than receivers of any support or fame. Therefore the onus is rightly on those hardened skeptics who allude or outright postulate they all colluded in a hoax. Or all transformed into unreliable crazies at the same time(s). Or that incredible synchronized equipment malfunctions fooled everyone. Or any such crap 'debunking' postulations.

Specific claims were made about multiple events recorded with a variety of state-of-the-art military grade surveillance equipment. Including underwater tracking by submarine using sonar.
Let me know if any are or have been indicted for making false and misleading statements deemed 'likely to impune the good reputation of US navy'.

There are just so many parallels with the 1952 Washington flap incidents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C._UFO_incident
Multiple eyewitness reports from trained military personnel, backed by radar confirmations. Then an 'official report' that for sure amounts to a coverup. Hotly contested in turn by the personnel involved when subsequently interviewed for reaction to official story.

Nothing much changes over the decades. All the investigations get no further than exercises in accumulated stamp collecting. And imo 'they' - meaning the true intelligences behind the ongoing phenomena - intentionally want it that way. My definitive position again: http://www.sciforums.com/posts/3506955/