Proof that creation is wrong?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by davewhite04, Dec 21, 2018.

  1. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    No. Anything that is relative to the person can't be considered objective truth.
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    The Biblical viewpoint is the only solid one. All others are made up.
     
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  5. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I never said it was objective truth.
     
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  7. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    True.
     
  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Then it says nothing about the universe, only your mind.
     
  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. I'm not trying to explain the universe.
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Or reality. And you don't seem to care whether your beliefs are true.
     
  11. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    It's not that. I don't tend to push my beliefs onto others so I keep them close to my chest.
     
  12. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not sure that's a virtue. Why do you persist in believing things that aren't true?
     
  13. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Why are you questioning me?
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Why are you on an internet forum?
     
  15. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I like debating every now and then.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    You sure about that?
     
  17. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Very sure. What are you doing??
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Pointing out that you have done nothing but avoid answering questions.
     
  19. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    What questions?
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Why jump to the conclusion that a personal experience is experience of the supernatural?
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well, he gets to do that. It's called a belief. And he doesn't have to defend it unless he's asserting that it's more than that - i.e. that it's true for anyone but himself.

    Since I don't see him asserting that the rest of us must believe his experience was supernatural, the rest of us don't really have the right to challenge it unless it pleases him.
     
  22. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I'll assume you're talking about one of the ones I've had. The experience involved answers in the natural world that I didn't have an answer for, but were true.Like if you ask a bus driver "what time is the next bus" if he doesn't answer, you will not know, but if he does, and is correct, you do. Replace the bus driver with some sort of invisible entity that made you feel amazing while it was there. So me not 100% believing in God at the time, or the supernatural it was an amazing experience for me, I felt a beautiful presence which I was blessed to communicate with. I didn't want the encounter to end. The song "I want to know what love is" was answered as well, I know what love is, and it's incredible.
     
  23. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I've received answers from nature, random circumstance, a random song playing on my playlist, a thing someone said on the radio... These are likely natural coincidences that seem more significant than they are. Dawkins wrote a book about it called "Climbing Mount Improbable". Some may be the result of your own subconscious, particularly beautiful images. Some the result of natural chemicals in the brain. How do you tell the difference between that and the thing you call supernatural?

    If I ask someone to pick a number between 1 and 10, and I get it right, does that mean I read their mind? Or does it mean that I had a 1 in 10 chance of getting it right?
     

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