White supremacy is really about white degeneracy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by James R, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    No, we only need to take in the ones who want to come here.
    You're wrong. We have our share of ignorant rednecks out here on the prairies - but even a Canadian Conservative is more liberal than most Americans.
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    I always figured such notions should have a little more value in our discourse than they do. To wit, sure, people can argue about what your statement means, but listening to my fellow Americans screech throughout the years about the dangers of liberalism was stupid enough, and that they did it to vilify the Democratic Party even more gravely unfunny.

    But this much is true: Our Democrat-Republican dualism is a choice between barely functional conservatism, to the one, and post-conservative right-wing neurotic whatnot, to the other. I say, "whatnot", because it wasn't always neurotic rupture.

    Things were bad enough, once upon a time, but these days Americans are expected to compromise somewhere between verging on dysfunction and noncompetency. And all for the sake of traditionalist supremacism, as white and male and Christian as can be.
     
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  5. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Quebec's the one that's trying to ban burkhas, yarmulkas, hijabs, turbans, crescents and stars of David from public life (but of course not the crucifix, because that's a "secular" symbol).
     
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  7. Bells Staff Member

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    Are you denying her death was directly caused by a white supremacist who slammed his car into her and many others? Is your contention that she died because she had a heart attack and the nearly dozens of people injured were injured because they fell over?
    I think you missed the point.

    White supremacist ideology driven murders has gone up by a fairly large margin in 2017. You may be laughing at the actual figure of those who died, but the actual point is that white supremacist ideology and violence associated with it is on the rise.

    The report, called “Murder and Extremism in the United States in 2017” and published on Wednesday by the ADL’s Center on Extremism, found that ‘white supremacists and other far-right extremists were responsible for 59% of all extremist-related fatalities in the US in 2017, up dramatically from 20% in 2016.”

    Nine deaths were linked to Islamic extremists in the ADL’s annual assessment of extremist- related killings.

    The most recent ADL figures show that over the last 10 years, 71% of all the fatalities have been linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 26% were slain by Islamic extremists.

    Note the trend.

    More concerning is your apparent denial on the rise of white supremacism. By which I mean that this is no longer just fat dudes with flags hanging in their living rooms and doing Nazi salutes at the local club BBQ's.

    White supremacism is now mainstream.

    But Charlottesville was just one marker of a larger, problematic trend: From the distribution of white-supremacist propaganda on campuses, to dozens of rallies and demonstrations, white-supremacist activism was visible across the country in 2017, signaling a new willingness by racist groups to put themselves front and center on the American public stage.

    A closer look at white-supremacist beliefs helps to shed light on why this upsurge is happening.

    Modern white-supremacist ideology is founded on the belief that white people are on the verge of extinction, thanks to a “rising tide” of non-white populations (supposedly controlled by a Jewish conspiracy). As a result, some white supremacists and other racists justify their actions as attempts to “save” their race. When they say the white race is being threatened with “genocide” or “extinction,” it becomes easier for them to justify or rationalize violence in the name of “preserving” the race
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    It has become the norm. It is no longer unexpected or surprising. They are out in the open, tiki torches, chants, flags, same hair styles and matching button down shirts and all. You should also keep in mind that these figures do not factor in hate crimes and bias incidents that are also on the rise in the US.

    You know, if you want to keep chortling, that is.

    They moved the needle enough to vote in Donald Trump, who is known globally for attracting stadium full of white supremacists at his rallies around the US, the majority of whom never hid their ideology at those events.

    I am just going to address this here, because it has become somewhat problematic.

    Your insults towards others, from "low IQ" to calling people "retards", for example, is not acceptable. We get it, that is what you have to fall back on. But it isn't acceptable, particularly since your response is to deny everything, despite all evidence to the contrary.

    Not to mention that it would also behoove you to not tell people they have a low IQ or call them retards, when you have consistently failed to master even the most basic formatting this site offers when responding. Because a large portion of your posts has been you trying and failing to figure out how the quote function works.

    I'll come back to the rest of your responses later.
     
  8. Xelor Registered Senior Member

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    "White supremacy is really about white degeneracy"
    • From the outside looking in, I suppose so.
    • From the inside looking out, it seems to be about little but fear, inadequacy and loathing.
     
  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    The question will come up again; then again, guess what landed in my Twitter feed just a few minutes ago. Er ... right. Anyway.

    Résumé du twit:

    In his address, Donald Trump cited a murder as an example of rising crimes due to immigration. But research says that more immigration actually reduces crime.

    (Public Radio International↱)

    The longer version, from last year, via The Conversation↱:

    Immigration-crime research over the past 20 years has widely corroborated the conclusions of a number of early 20th-century presidential commissions that found no backing for the immigration-crime connection. Although there are always individual exceptions, the literature demonstrates that immigrants commit fewer crimes, on average, than native-born Americans.

    Also, large cities with substantial immigrant populations have lower crime rates, on average, than those with minimal immigrant populations.

    In a paper published this year in the Journal of Ethnicity in Criminal Justice, we, along with our colleagues Gail Markle, Saskia Weiss and Charles Jaret, investigated the immigration-crime relationship.

    We analyzed census data spanning four decades from 1970 to 2010 for 200 randomly selected metropolitan areas, which include center cities and surrounding suburbs. Examining data over time allowed us to assess whether the relationship between immigration and crime changed with the broader U.S. economy and the origin and number of immigrants.

    The most striking finding from our research is that for murder, robbery, burglary and larceny, as immigration increased, crime decreased, on average, in American metropolitan areas. The only crime that immigration had no impact on was aggravated assault. These associations are strong and stable evidence that immigration does not cause crime to increase in U.S. metropolitan areas, and may even help reduce it.


    (Adelman and Reid)

    ‡​

    For the last decade, we have been studying how immigration to an area impacts crime.

    Across our studies, one finding remains clear: Cities and neighborhoods with greater concentrations of immigrants have lower rates of crime and violence, all else being equal.

    Our research also points to the importance of city context for understanding the immigration-crime relationship. In one study, for example, we found that cities with historically high immigration levels are especially likely to enjoy reduced crime rates as a result of their immigrant populations ....

    .... Our analysis of the literature reveals that immigration has a weak crime-suppressing effect. In other words, more immigration equals less crime.

    There were some individual studies that found that with an increase in immigration, there was an increase in crime. However, there were 2.5 times as many findings that showed immigration was actually correlated with less crime. And, the most common finding was that immigration had no impact on crime.


    (Kubrin and Ousey)

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    Notes:

    @pritheworld. "In his address, Donald Trump cited a murder as an example of rising crimes due to immigration. But research says that more immigration actually reduces crime." Twitter. 8 January 2018. Twitter.com. 8 January 2018. http://bit.ly/2C8qubG

    Kubrin, Charis, Graham C. Ousey, Lesley Reid, and Roberty Adelman. "Immigration and crime: What does the research say?" The Conversation. 1 February 2017. TheConversation.com. 8 January 2018. http://bit.ly/2TzIgf2
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    your a garbage human being
     
  11. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the fact your defending them would belie that comment

    no it isn't

    everyone has answered your questions

    its been my experience people who call others low iq aren't the brightest bulb in the box
     
  12. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    that's not a fair comparison.... hitler had some decent qualities while being a garbage person. trump is just a piece of crap.

    and if you don't want people to think you are a white supremicist or nazis perhaps don't use there talking points.
     
  13. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    it should be noted just for SAG that being in the US illegally is not actually a crime. it is a civil offense. thats why you have 5 year olds defending themselves in immigration court
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Mexicans that don't work their ass off? I've never heard of such a thing. Are they disabled?

    Also sales tax.
     
  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the ol "beat-up-on-the-weakest" to make you feel like you have power over something you dont have power over.
    all to help create more chaos and confusion from the real issues and any attempts at solving them...

    USA extreme capitalist outsourcing of all their jobs
    USA over priced un-afforable health care creating massive numbers of drug dependents & addicts
    USA lack of proper pragmatic regulation to ensure a low cost effective nationwide government & well paid working class.
    Turning health care into a religious debate and denying funding to children & the poor
    water pollution
    cross state confusion of legal & civil controls

    i could go on & on

    its much easier to just blame someone who cant fight back
    its like beating up the physically disabled kid in school

    meanwhile usa working class taxes are paying to keep south american children in cages as they die
     

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