Bombs found targeted to new agencies and top democrats

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pjdude1219, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    So an arrest has been made. The man, Cesar Sayoc, has been arrested, and his van covered with Trump stickers has been impounded.

    It's not just rhetoric. Trump supporting terrorists are actually out trying to murder liberals. Do you really want them in charge?
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Who could afford all those stickers? George Soros, that's who!
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yep! And the right wing media is already trying to claim it's a "false flag" operation by democrats.

    "Isn't it suspicious that it happened RIGHT BEFORE the election?"

    "Democrats have thrown every trick at Republicans. Their media acolytes are doing their tough lifting for them — and none of it, none of it, none of it has worked. So what would you do? Democrat operative, best way to turn all of that around? How about a day like this? How about a day like this where you create a scenario where it looks like the mobs are on both sides."
     
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  7. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    So, "we" only hear this from sources best known for their lying. Check.

    I always know what the right wingers are up to by what they accuse the Democrats of doing.
     
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  8. zgmc Registered Senior Member

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    I heard that Rush was questioning why the stickers weren't faded, and had also attached some significance to the suspect only having been an account holder on twitter since 2016.. How quickly do you suppose those stickers are going to fade? They almost look like vinyl wraps from the photos... Lots of right wingers are calling out, "false flag!" This level of stupidity used to be reserved for the extreme wingnuts.
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    = brain washing
    that is the real danger of indoctrinating children from birth with religion and a corrupt model of power and control as parents and local community.
    it breeds cult members and zealots just looking for a new hitler to follow.
     
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  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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  11. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    And, of course, it starts with President Trump, inasmuch as there should be any significant chatter this way, at all; but the Party is certainly getting in on it, too:

    Post from @NCGOP vice chair on Instagram features black power fist to represent Democrats' "mobs."

    (Campbell [@RaleighReporter]↱)

    (There's another grim chuckle about that one, too.)
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    Notes:

    @RaleighReporter. "Post from @NCGOP vice chair on Instagram features black power fist to represent Democrats' 'mobs.'" Twitter. 23 October 2018. Twitter.com. 26 October 2018. http://bit.ly/2EOl4XS
     
  12. Bells Staff Member

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    Not only do they view themselves as the real victims of these bombing attempts, but they also blame the victims of said bombing attempts. Not to mention justifying those attacks..

    Now Trump's approach is unsurprisingly being reinforced on Fox News, with multiple pundits blamingthe media and the left and framing the bomber as someone whose motivations are justified, even as they claim to denounce his methods. The idea is solidifying, at least in right-wing groupthink, that liberals and journalists should respond to terrorism by giving the terrorists what they want. This is no different than the logic of the wife-beater who tells his wife that he doesn't want to hit her, but if she can't get dinner on the table in time, then he clearly has no choice.

    That's why any language about national unity or "coming together" coming from conservatives -- still less from Donald Trump -- should be treated with skepticism. Trump's idea of unity is not one where there's some terrain for reasonable compromise, or a genuine effort to argue out differences in an atmosphere of mutual respect. It's one where he can do what he wants and everyone else achieves "unity" by lying down and letting him have his way. This is why he feels free to keep on flinging false accusations at the media and calling them names, even after decrying that behavior. Clearly, "civility" is just code for "Liberals and journalists: Shut up."

    Is it shocking to see Trump, and conservatives generally, instrumentalize terrorist violence this way? It shouldn't be. This pattern has defined the Republican response to decades of violence against abortion clinics: Officially condemn the people who commit it, but refuse to take effective action to reduce or control the violence. That way, they have have it both ways, by pretending to be civil while also benefiting from the way such terrorism has drastically reduced the availability of legal abortion.


    Trump has also been winking at the whole false flag accusations with pointed tweets about timing and how damaging this is to Republicans because of the upcoming mid-terms.

    When asked if he was going to call or had called the Clinton's and Obama's, seeing how these attacks targeted two former Presidents, his response was "we'll pass".

    I suppose we should be thankful that Trump's acolytes have not started to throw Trump's political opponents and those who criticise him off buildings.. yet..
     
  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    note sarah sanders hospital pass media comment to try and prevent the republican party from requesting a section 8 on all funding.
     
  14. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    Bateson and Laing must be shitting in their graves.

    The FBI and the feds barely acknowledge the existence of right wing violence, so they certainly don't regard such actions as terrorism. And yet with the passage of ag-gag laws <<< and the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act <<< they've somehow re-branded activities such as whistle-blowing, filming inside of "animal enterprises" (concentration camps, factory farms, laboratories, etc.), and even sending black faxes <<< (see also SHAC 7 <<<: In March 2006, a federal jury in Trenton, New Jersey, found six members of SHAC guilty of using their website to incite attacks on those who did business with HLS.[48] ... They were charged with conspiracy to violate the Animal Enterprise Protection Act, in the first application of the 1992 statute. Jonas, Gazzola, Conroy, and Harper were charged with conspiracy to harass using a telecommunications device (sending black faxes)) as "terrorism." And what little actual left wing violence that has been perpetrated in the U.S. over the past few decades has mostly been instigated by the FBI, who infiltrate activist organizations as undercover operations and dupe the most vulnerable and malleable members into planning an act of property destruction, or "terrorism."

    "The No. 1 domestic terrorism threat is the eco-terrorism, animal-rights movement," said John Lewis, an FBI deputy assistant director and top official in charge of domestic terrorism.
    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/schuster.column/index.html

    Riiiiight. We're led to believe that the FBI of today is no longer the batshit-fucking-crazy FBI of fifty years ago, who filled Fred Hampton full of bullet holes while he slept and documented every single fucking time Phil Ochs took a shit. Hardly.

    So somehow bombing, and attempted murder, are justified, while simply documenting what actually goes on and spamming a fax machine are acts of terror.
     
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  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the FBI was actually attacked by the republican party for releasing a document stating that right wing extremists were the single biggest terror threat in the country
     
  16. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    I vaguely recall this--did they actually use the term "terrorism," or did they simply describe it as "right wing violence and extremism"?
     
  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    for the life of me i can't remember but i know there was a big kerfuffle over it
     

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