What is the most evil astrological sign ?

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What astrological sign are you ?

  1. Aries (March 21 — April 19)

    2.6%
  2. Taurus (April 20 — May 20)

    12.8%
  3. Gemini (May 21 — June 21)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Cancer (June 22 — July 22)

    7.7%
  5. Leo (July 23 — August 22)

    2.6%
  6. Virgo (August 23 — September 22)

    7.7%
  7. Libra (September 23 — October 23)

    7.7%
  8. Scorpio (October 24 — November 21)

    15.4%
  9. Sagittarius (November 22 — December 21)

    5.1%
  10. Capricorn (December 22 — January 19)

    15.4%
  11. Aquarius (January 20 — February 19)

    20.5%
  12. Pisces (February 20 — March 20)

    2.6%
  1. birch Valued Senior Member

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    my venus in leo conjunct my lilith in leo in the fifth house. this is why i attracted energy vampires all my life starting from the most maliciously jealous from a child from those around me. always people wanting something from me like i secretly lay golden eggs or something they need to uncover and exploit with raging malice and envy. that's why i learned to be an open book. there is nothing to hide and i wasn't hiding anything wrong in the beginning anyways. this chart needs support of evolved souls, not those who are insecure and jealous. i attracted an incredible amount of jealousy from people directly around me if i unleashed my full force/light/inspiration. my son has lilith in leo also but not in the fifth house. lilith leo is understanding glamour to an artistic/inspired extent. this is the placement of artists which explains why i was seeing visions of people and dreams that would later become famous as a child which i didn't know who they were until later. competition or friends? seems suspicious. my life has been so bizarre and unusual. i've not heard of others having that experience to such an extent. my chart is jam-packed with artist signatures. that was this charts original destiny or supposed to have been; lots of buried secrets and conspiracies in nature and the astral realm.

    when i was in the military and when i recognized one of the celebrities that i saw as a young child as they were just beginning their career, i had a reading done on why i had seen them in the first place because i don't even know who that person was and she said the cards indicated that i did in a past life and it was because i was supposed to be among them. then i asked if that was supposed to be, then what happened. the cards indicated i made a decision to sacrifice to go to the bottom looking for my 'child'. because i do recall strongly a feeling that my partner and i had lost a child tragically in a past life. there was this sense that he 'fell' into darkness so mistakenly i assumed it was the bottom of society. that pain i brought with me into this life. it's amazing serendipity that i was feeling that anguish/guilt strongly at that time and the cards picked up on that energy, this was when i was fairly young and was not even considering settling down or having children at the time. the cards picked up on that energy without me saying a word about it as a metaphysical backdrop. this was in reference to a past life that affected present life choices. but it was a vicious lie to get me off my path or distracted. there are lots of malicious and jealous souls in human meat suits that will do anything (unscrupulous/hidden strategies/sabotage) for fame just as there are dark astral forces/energies as well as good ones.

    the lame part of this jealousy of 'celebrity' is not and was not my goal. that is small fry to me. it is what runs it behind the scenes is where i would have wanted to be.

    when i asked what this person wanted from me, again it was my energy. energy, energy, energy!!! why? because it was purer and therefore full of inspiration that could benefit them as well as bizarrely that it's like a metaphysical level of 'seeding' similar to stealing eggs from someone. that's exactly how she put it because that is the only way she could explain this deep level of jealousy. my mars conjunct pallas as an earth angel aspect coincides as the reason.

    my son is highly artistic too. i dont' think this is all a mere coincidence. as a matter of fact, i know in my gut it's not. it was sabotaged from getgo. i already lost before it began. i don't give a shit though anymore. it is not a coincidence that my so-called family rose so high to the top that they have access to the celebrity world and they are not even artists after they plundered and raped my mind and soul for everything they could get. any beauty or inspiration i showed, was immediately sucked away, continuously. there is not only physical predation or parasitism in this universe that goes on, it also occurs on the metaphysical level as well.

    i thought it was just my moon but it's also my mars conjunct the mc (career). that was to lock in success (strong drive/determination) but as with all plans of mice and men..but this chart was formidable, if other variables had played a better hand.

    gorgeous chart that just turned to ashes. once this life is over, i don't ever want to come back here. that's even if it could be different another time, it doesn't matter. this world can have all of it for themselves. i don't want any part of it anymore. no desire; no attracting devils, jealousies or ire. ugh.
     
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  3. birch Valued Senior Member

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    there was four in total starting from nine years old. two of them are actors and worked together. the first one was in the theater scene in the dream at nine. the second was when i was in the military. the one that came to me live astrally when i was in my barely early twenties was the one where i was literally heaving because i could feel myself being drained. this one was a singer/actor. the third was another actor unrelated. the fourth was in a dream and had worked with the first one. this one was when my son was two and there were some slight paranormal disturbances occuring at the time but not anything like when i was a child. that was the last of them and none since then. it was also not coincidence when my life took a turn for an improvement as in not being constantly pummeled when it was all over as in their success was assured. like now they can let up. when i did my own random reading. the three major arcana (not minor physical/mundane world) cards showed up which were the magician reversed, emperor reversed and the tower card upright. the magician reversed indicates bending/manipulating metaphysical energies or black magic, the reversed emperor is literally game over this round and tower is disaster as outcome. well, that is what happened, in a nutshell. this doesn't mean all of them do this but some people utiilze underhanded tactics to get power, at any cost and at anyone's expense. metaphysical crimes don't appear in a court of law because they can't. it's the crime of the most adept at manipulation.

    the thing is 'they' didn't think or assumed i wouldn't figure it out. people go about their lives without a clue as to what forces are acting on their lives, what unseen forces affect destiny and what conspiracies are actually afoot, even on unseen/astral levels. the universe has many layers of unseen/invisible reality, that affects the seen/physical world and moves events and causes such concepts as coincidence (not), opportunity and serendipity. how could i not investigate when i was having unusual occurrences (premonitions/dreams) that manifested in reality in the physical world to be true. totally bizarre life. that and coupled with my 'family' who were the prime instigators of this paranormal activity and then they all rose to the top to the point they are involved in and even, get this, actual 'contract' signings with celebrities. one of my uncles does this as he is a vice president of a major multinational. that is why my uncle invited me to a shoot once. but not a single one of them is an actual artist, except my son.

    but that's the thing. i am an artist so i'm attuned to the subtle and can detect when things are off. artists know the unseen world is real. others think it's total make-believe. it is and it isn't. it's just able to be manipulated and what others just know as creativity but that creativity can be used in perverted ways or to sabotage as well. the unseen realm is just what artists bring into physical manifestation. of course, i would have a clue this shit out eventually.

    but the thing was i didn't care about any of those things as i went a different direction. i just wanted to have a life without being fuked over but i suppose then i might still have become successful in some way. how petty.
     
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  5. birch Valued Senior Member

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    most people think these are deep or dark secrets or things they would not tell others but it's not a secret. most everything i share, others have experienced. not everyone but some have. there are things i can only share with only a few that are truly secrets. they would blow the minds of most people.

    in other words, the 'simulation' theory of reality is on the right track but as far as it being a literal computer simulation may not be but it's similar because it can be reduced to mathematics. this is because entities (including us) can manipulate our environment, even sometimes to a far-reaching extent and far-reaching is just not qualitative effects but stretching space/time as we usually percieve it. the synchronicity can have long-reaching effects, even down to the trivial details. the past and future is more closely intertwined than it seems.
     
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  7. birch Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.buzzfeed.com/asiawmclai...-creep-you-the?utm_term=.pfpm3wg4X#.vt8BljA65


    "My son told us the reason he's best friends with his 89-year-old great-great-grandpa is because he was his sister before..."


    "I was singing a song to my 3-year-old daughter that my great-grandma used to sing to me when I was small. My daughter smiled, stroked my cheek, and said, 'I remember when I used to sing this to you when I was the Mommy and you were my little girl.'"
     
  8. birch Valued Senior Member

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    https://thoughtcatalog.com/christin...epy-kid-has-remembered-about-their-last-life/


    I did something sort of similar I guess. When I was about 3 my mum and I were driving over a bridge on which there’d recently been a major accident that resulted in a car bursting into flames and the driver dying.

    Anyway, I asked my mum who the man in the front seat was and when she told me to describe him I said, “Well he’s on fire and he keeps looking back at me.”

    I think I am beginning to understand now why when I try to tell her when someone dies, they go away forever, she tells me that, that is not true. “We come back, mommy!”
     
  9. birch Valued Senior Member

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    my sun conjuncts my isis/osiris, meaning it's all in the same sign. again, my son also has all three in the same sign. interestingly, again, in my particular sample of people i know, we are the only ones except for one particular actor i looked up just to check on a hunch because he seemed to have an old soul and he also has sun conjunct isis but not an isis/osiris link. out of the sample of people past and present that i checked, my mother, me and my son has a direct link of isis/osiris and she was artistic but not an sun/isis link. none of my other family members have this conjunct of isis/osiris (artistic sense) but not sun/isis. she was adept at venusian activities such as flower arranging, interior decoration, knitting, sewing etc, very easily.

    isis/osiris in the same sign/conjunct tends to have better understanding of balance and symmetry which can be used for art. my son and i who are artists have both in same sign but his is even in a more artistic sign of libra because it is ruled by venus and we both also have old soul indicators with sun conjunct isis.

    when i check/cross-reference musicians i admire the most or who i think are the best, they all have isis/osiris direct conjunct also as that indicates an understanding of balance and perfect symmetry. the one i admire most recently is isis scorpio/osiris scorpio.

    now, you don't need to develop a link of isis/osiris to be an actor but it is a requirement to be a great musician/dancer/singer (understanding flow).
     
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  10. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Is this another coincidence? both my mother and stepfather have the sedna in the same sign and conjunct my vertex and they did betray me extremely. they don't even have this sign anywhere else in their chart, just their sedna in aries which target my chart extremely because i have many aries signatures, unlike them. the rest of my family have it in other signs or the same sign i do. for instance, my son and i have the sedna in the same sign and don't strike eachothers vertex.

    but that was the problem, i couldn't run as i was a child. i had a sense deep down that this was an overall conspiracy than just those two because i also knew that it would take someone being able to take control over me as a child in order to take me down or do considerable damage. i had a deep sense even that so-called mother (not kindred soul) would have killed me if she could get away with it or there was no laws preventing her or if she did not have a use for me. it was as if this was a setup to 'surgically' strike me down.

    i have to qualify what this aspect means though; the level of soul evolution and character will determine the level of depravity one will 'strike' another though. just because one was this aspect with another, doesn't mean everyone will react exactly the same or commit the same offenses. it does indicate, however, that you are inherent enemies on some level or there is indifference.
     
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  11. birch Valued Senior Member

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    correction; their sedna conjuncts my anti-vertex in aries. my vertex is in libra. but it's counted the same. if someone's sedna conjuncts your vertex, it's the same effect just as the ascendant/descendant axis has similar effects. that is why i attract scorpio signatures from other charts. my descendant and seventh house of official relationships is scorpio. but if their scorpio is in personal planet houses, it cannot work. it must be in transpersonal such as uranus, jupiter, neptune and pluto and therefore transformative or have a higher purpose for the relationship. the personal planets in scorpio (hitting my chart because of it's configuration) would be like two boa constrictors choking eachother to death.

    damn, i've never met a scorpio sun that i've liked yet. scorpio pluto is okay. they can deeply transform/heal the seventh house and the descendant conjunction is your natural partner.

    jupiter is even better.
     
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  12. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I hate it when they gyre and gimbal in the wabe. And all of that outgribing....
     
  13. birch Valued Senior Member

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    lol. mars in aquarius progressed. my current mars is in capricorn and sag. fantastic balanced power in this placement and quite a powerhouse but alas..other factors did not allow this to flourish as it could. capricorn for the nuts/bolts/work ethic and sag for the inspiration.

    my progressed natal chart has changed to sun, moon and mercury in scorpio. your natal does not stay the same but still remains a backdrop/foundation until you pass over. the next incarnation will be another chart entirely. this is intense triple crown/ring honed in the fires of mordor in scorpio (lol). my mars has changed to aquarius. the sun and mercury will be in this sign until i pass away from this life. the other signatures can change especially moon phases but theoretically what this means is if i reincarnate shortly after this life, i will be reborn as a scorpio sun, scorpio mercury and aquarius mars (these do not change in my progressed). the rest are like pulling a slot machine and chance placements. this is because the sun and mercury as well as mars are core aspects that you have subconsciously honed depending on your experiences and survey of your environment in this life.

    i have a strong correlation in this life with mars in libra folk because the mercury/mars conjunct indicates i understand their motivations and actions as well as my triple libra placements and vertex. however, it look as though i won't be having many libra placements in the next incarnation if i choose to incarnate soon after.

    but:

    but the mars in aquarius signature is trying to make up for this. you can't use the energies of the progressed fully as a natal until the next incarnation. it just means it's being simmered for the time being.

    my node in the next incarnation will be aquarius as well, if i choose to incarnate. the similarity to pisces and libra is some seed of reform, fairness, equality and freedom/respect for individual rights. that would make sense as to a higher purpose or values.
     
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  14. birch Valued Senior Member

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    in other words, the mars aquarius would be hearkening an echo of this incarnation's major higher purpose with libra placements but with a slightly different bent, flavor or route.

    this also means that in the next incarnation (theoretically), that if i do run into those with many libra placements, i would probably love them very much because it would be reminiscent or a reminder of my own idealism and innocence from the past. the mental amnesia would be there but on a soul level, it would be nostalgic and i would most likely support such people sympathetically/empathetically. i would root for them.

    maybe they would even make me cry or be nostaligic at my own so-called metaphorical death from a past life and see these types as familiar in some way.

    but the triple scorpio in the next incarnation would be like a phoenix rising from the ashes (stellium because most likely even if the moon changes, the chances are very high one of the transpersonal planets will be in scorpio) so just as in this life it was libra stellium and venus/neptune angelic idealism, the next it will be scorpio triple stellium with an aquarius north node.
     
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  15. birch Valued Senior Member

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    north node in aquarius is so much better than pisces. the description for having someones planets on this north node of pisces is not good. it is not helpful or beneficial at all for growth. it's like having someone who is traumatized trying to help another who is traumatized. i've not been able to make do with it as if you are flailing and there is no ground beneath your feet. those who have aspected their pisces planets on my north node have just
    'helped' me go further awry, unconstructive or lost. ugh.

    these progressions are casting shadows at least and give some clarity. i so want to get away from pisces (lost in the fog, woods or desert) energy.
     
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  16. birch Valued Senior Member

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    how scarily accurate is that. the mc and ic are interrelated and represent the mother and father outward dichotomy. how suspicious this was exact in my chart as in both cancer and capricorn (ic and mc exact) people as my so-called parents. they were definitely not parents but torturers and enemies. outwardly the signs matched up but inwardly they were of a different stock (vedic guna). very sinister conspiracy and sham.
     
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  17. birch Valued Senior Member

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    https://ohioastrology.com/2010/12/31/who-are-your-enemies/

    it's very strange to be born to an enemy and then be raised by enemies. to be born into a world/planet/universe where you are alone and then have to question your identity, searching for your own kind and feel as though you are not from here or do not belong. this is a sick universe and does too much wrong or twisted things or allows it. that's what they were: straight-up enemies. they did all of these things constantly, willfully and very much instinctively and primally, very down the core motivated as an enemy. the most dangerous kind.

    it has the effect of feeling as though you were abducted and woke up in a strange place from every sane and right thing you ever knew trying to fool you and use you.
     
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  18. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i already knew. in other words, that it was this flavor before i cast it. this is the synastry i have with a musician that has an aspect of their persona that i admire or seems 'familiar'. in other words, a reflection of my own similar standards and/or persona. you can just observe someone for a few moments, pick up on their energy signatures and read chemistry. it is amazing how much information you can pick up just on someone's energy signatures without them saying a word, in person or not.

    this is an egoistic type of camaraderie. we both understand eachothers's egos and are not intimidated or afraid of it. in fact, it's very much reinforced as an inherent understanding to keep up personal high standards. this is all theoretical. this doesn't mean that you did or do, it's just based on your true inner self. i can't stand people who dislike others because of their strong ego. they are weakening, annoying and undermining. these same idiots tend to read everything wrong or backwards. if someone is arrogant or insipid, they are okay with it because neither know who they are or really harnessing their ego but a truly strong ego, they are just jealous. you need an indefatigable ego to be strong and to have self-respect and therefore to be able to truly respect others.

    it's actually the opposite of what people are often taught. those who don't respect themselves will not be able to respect you or your desire to better yourself or be treated better either. so a broken ego is as destructive as an arrogant one. a fully harnessed ego that knows who they are with no apologies is a beautiful thing to see. it's full on and in right working order.

    How can one develop refinement and therefore sensitivity, without an ego? What small minds consider snobbery. That doesnt mean one doesnt have a down-to-earth side as well. This is just one aspect of a personality or chemistry.

    Aries signature is also known as the one that 'goes for gold', not silver or bronze as well as encourages the same in others.

    This particular is in aquarius which is the unique aspect/qualifier in this house. His draconic placement is moon in aries and mine is in aquarius but my ascendant is aries, east point aries and chiron aries (understands ego) which causes the overlap in mutual chemistry with the transpersonal placements. The nodes are the same in soul chart, so flowing in the same direction. So this is the soul identification.

    I was surrounded by people all my life, especially formative years, who were intimidated by my ego and my strong will, wanting to crush it at all costs. Totally wrong. When my son expresses his ego, i love it!!! I'm all for it!! Go for it!
     
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  19. birch Valued Senior Member

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    mars is in my 8th house and has been my experience because there are other signatures in my chart that point to sexual abuse as well so it was inevitable with it being compounded.

    i have these two placements with every musician that i happen to like or identify with as well as my son who is also a musician. the surgical healing of moon/chiron and uranus/8th house of transformation. this means that my 'kindred' souls are more likely to be musicians; not all musicians but the fact they all have this signature with my chart and happen to be musicians is a noteworthy pattern, especially the ones that i notice the 'most'. that is telling vibrational cues. musicians tend to be more sensitive, so more perceptive in human relations; therefore it makes sense they would be the most healing generally. the one that is most profound synastry is the draconic (soul) and also has mars, uranus, neptune and pluto in my 7th (official relationships) and 8th house. that is transformational energy to heal and get you back on track; not to be with eachother but because they are your kindred soulmates. his jupiter is also in my 5th house which is an interpretation of a past-life spouse (especially under draconic) and has a resonance of one who they were married to (happily so) long ago and the nodes are in the same sign. when there is this much pattern to a synastry, one is advised to take note. a coincidence? perhaps i did have a normal incarnation at one point before i got lost?

    the moon/chiron is especially sensitive because most people would not be able to understand or accept another's dark past. the draconic moon/chiron is even more deeply empathetic but they all have this synastry, either in natal or draconic. you have hidden spiritual foes and friends in this world. those you resonate with positively have a healing or positive effect, not chaotic or destructive.

    moon/chiron means they can see through to what is you and what is not you. all the uglies, degradation, humiliation, abuse, failures, and pain that makes you believe as though no one on the planet could possibly honestly care for you except a higher power is the beauty of moon/chiron soul connection. you may not or rarely run into them but those people exist, unlike unicorns. i know because i gave birth to one and there are others out there too that are your soul 'kin' and on an astral level, sort of have your back, if you will.

    the people that have been closest to me (as in physically around me) do not have this moon/chiron connection with me except for my son who is the only musician in this so-called family (so far).

    still, if reincarnation is true and i have a choice, i do NOT want to come back here; so harrowing and got ripped to shreds.
     
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  20. birch Valued Senior Member

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    there is this concept in astrology and metaphysics that involves the wheel of fortune (tarot) and the 12 cyclic signs. as you move through the different signs, you learn and experience different facets of existence. besides the signs, every incarnation will be a different one as you walk in eachother's shoes so you gain a more expansive perspective on reality and the human experience, with it's particular strengths and weaknesses. you will not be on top in every incarnation and you will not be on the bottom because as the wheel turns each time, your fortune and circumstances change each incarnation. one incarnation you may be the prince and another the pauper. the wisdom is that you gain a fuller understanding of the larger picture.
     
  21. birch Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ls-astonishing-hard-dismiss-make-believe.html

    remarkable

     
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  22. birch Valued Senior Member

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    This one creeps the hell out of me:

    When I was a child my family moved to a big old two-floor house, with big empty rooms and creaking floorboards. Both my parents worked so I was often alone when I came home from school. One early evening when I came home the house was still dark. I called out, “Mum?” and heard her sing song voice say “Yeeeeees?” from upstairs. I called her again as I climbed the stairs to see which room she was in, and again got the same “Yeeeeees?” reply. We were decorating at the time, and I didn’t know my way around the maze of rooms but she was in one of the far ones, right down the hall. I felt uneasy, but I figured that was only natural so I rushed forward to see my mum, knowing that her presence would calm my fears, as a mother’s presence always does. Just as I reached for the handle of the door to let myself in to the room I heard the front door downstairs open and my mother call “Sweetie, are you home?” in a cheery voice. I jumped back, startled and ran down the stairs to her, but as I glanced back from the top of the stairs, the door to the room slowly opened a crack. For a brief moment, I saw something strange in there, and I don’t know what it was, but it was staring at me.


    Interesting:


    Apparently my first two homes were haunted but I was too young to remember/never encountered anything. In my first home the lights would go off for no reason, and it happened to my mum while she was showering and my grandma saw my dad in the living room at night but he was literally just sitting there in his work uniform not saying anything. But he was working overnight so it wasn't actually him that she saw. My brother claims to have seen his toys move too and he was too young to make stuff up.


    if this is true, then that's sadly disturbing that a ghost would hang around just to help one find their keys! unless it's someone who chooses to attach to you because they are a loved one, then it's just a lost soul:

     
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  23. Astrophysics Registered Member

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    I think Sag is definetly the most evil. But tbh sag is the most flexible sign because they are in complete control of their destiny. There life goal is to become the opposite of what they were born as. They were born a evil, merciless, and manipulative but become forgiving, truthful, and happy. But if they are mentally strong enough, (which I think I am) they can switch between the two which is really hard to pull off situationally.
     

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