Creating an Underwater Society?

Discussion in 'General Science & Technology' started by BatM, Jun 22, 2001.

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  1. jcb15digger Registered Member

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    batM i agree with u

    i also think it would be a learning experiance for us if we explored our own world befor colonising others.if anything went rong underwater at least we would have help(on the same planet).
     
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  3. kmguru Staff Member

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    What are you talking about? Did you loose your thread? You can reply to the thread so that the context is visible.
     
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  5. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

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    Surprised ...

    That no one has tied the idea of living underwater in with genetic modification.

    Since the development of gill slits is a stage in fetal development, all that would be necessary is a genetic modification that would enable gills to develop as well a lungs - and we could truly live underwater!

    Not my idea. Years ago there was a comic book whose hero was 'Super Mariner' I believe.
     
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  7. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Good post! You're right, I am indeed surprised that no one else has mentioned it.

    To use genetics for adapting to underwater would require not only gills but also something done for the skin. The skin secretes oils designed to protect it from our environment. Melanin is produced to protect us from the damage that the sun would normally inflict upon us. (Which incidentally gives the color to our skin) So what would be the result of someone staying underwater for long periods of time besides wrinkly skin and bleached white in appearance. Would the shut down of melanin producing hormones over the long haul affect our body in some other way?

    Would the loss of skin oil require some other type of secretion to take place? What would be the effects of one so adapted to normal air, even at night? The temperatures that such people would have to deal with might require the addition of fat layers. Much the same as whales.
     
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  8. Shaununderwater Registered Member

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    Underwater colonies

    Guys, Guys, Guys.
    This is what your looking for.
    Construction starts soon.
    Shaunessy
     
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  10. BNT77 Registered Member

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    In my many searches for information and others who are trying to colonize underwater i stumbled across this forum.

    For the past 10+ years I have been designing and working on an underwater habitat/resort/colony.

    I believe it can be done. The only thing thats really needed is funding. Its a very possible endeavor.

    I am looking for others who have giftings in this area or knowledge where I lack to partner together with me to see this come true.
     
  11. Shaununderwater Registered Member

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    underwater living

    http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3sr95/
    Hey, goto this link and tell me what you think.
    I have 1000 acres of waterfront Fijian land plus a constrt company.
    You can contact me directly from the website.
     
  12. Revolution Registered Senior Member

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    I'm Goin to FIJI!!!!! I wish.....

    About the colonization. Ok yes Mars but it makes no sense to do the Moon first. For one, do we know how to terra-form a planet? Would it not be easier to practice on the small Moon first? Also having a Ship-Yard on the moon, This reason is the launching of huge colonial vessels that could be massive and not need to be launched from the Earth which , for one being a LOT LESS POLLUTION, and probably a hell of a lot cheaper!

    Also! We have a space station yea yea. Well a Moon station! There is a little gravity up there, being on a solid mass I be would be a lot more safer and you would not have to worry about the orbit adjusting part. Plus if something goes wrong, or you need help because we are not in Star Trek level, would you not want to be close to the Earth?

    And besides how cool would it be to look up at the moon and its got shit on it and lights, maybe just like looking at the Earth, which is an awsome site.

    So in conclusion:

    1- Moon Station
    2- Moon Base
    3- Terraform Practice and Developement
    4- Ship Yard for future production and launching of 'Colonial' class colony ships to Mars, and beyond.
    5- Mars Base
    6- Terraform
    7- Colonization of Mars
    Plus if an asteriod or whatever does hit Earth, you might be the lucky one living on the Moon

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    Ok now for underwater:
    I have been saying that for 10 years.
    But would it not be easier to develope it in shallow water? Like say emergency you could actually be able to swim up to the top without risk of the bends? Say 20 feet down. And you would not need a ship fleet above because its only 20 feet offshore so you could have the land station which I am sure would be much cheaper.

    Oh and as far as a non rusting metal, and this will be a while, in space they could mix gold with whatever the hardest metal for the job together and.....Wala gold does not rust so that I THINK solves the rust issue. Might be a lil expensive because gold is valuable so we would have to set a new trend that gold is worth dogshit.

    Ok so in conclusion:

    1-Do it in shallow and near land for safety until techniques and technology are perfected
    2-Mix gold in with metal for no-rust.


    Now it might be hard to get all that metal into space and mix it at the current state so: We would have to figure out a way to make a total weighless room. I dont know if that is possible, but I would have to say electromagnatism might be some feasable way. Where the fuk is TESLA when ya need em?!?


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    So, We colonize the Ocean, The Moon, and Mars. Learn to get along or have the New World Order take over. I know Hitler was a bad guy but if he did take over the world, do you think there would be any wars? You get the idea. This is all feasable its just the problem with, well $$ I am sure, but why I think its not being done is that there are not enough of us visionaries out there anymore we just go to work, go home, fuck your spouce, watch tv. play with the kid, go to sleep. I bet if an asteriod was spotted 5 years away on a dead course and it was too big, like say larger than the Earth, I bet we'd get to Mars in a big fat hurry.

    The government would be like uh, remember that whole Area 51 thing? Well kinda.........umm.......we got.....SOME....... spaceship technology

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  13. Shaununderwater Registered Member

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    No, No No.
    The domes should be made of concrete with a bladder incorporated
    into the structure.
    www.monolithic.com
    Your right in one aspect tho.
    Have it built in around 50 feet of water so you wouldnt have to worry about pressurization.
    Have the domes (think of teletubbies house) built onland behind a coffer dam. (natural drydock)
    When completed, float to the desired location, sink into position holding it down with pylons connected by explosive bolts.
    Pump the water out, you have your habitat.
    Explosive bolts come into play if there is an emergency.
    If there is, blow the bolts and you'll bob to the surface like a cork.
     
  14. Revolution Registered Senior Member

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    I was just brainstorming on the underwater part. But the clamp/bolts holding the habitat down which could be detonated is a good idea I like that.

    I just read this whole thread and they were saying a problem was the saltwater was corroding the metals they used. Also they posted that the concrete may not be reliable when it comes to lots of stress from movement etc. Thats where I had the idea to mix a metal with a non rusting metal.

    But here is another idea. You say concrete. Well the whole space combining of metals technique, could you not mix concrete mix with an amount of Rev's non rust mix of Hard metal and gold idea? I have no idea if the two substances would actually mix well like liquid Iron and Gold, but its still an idea.

    Does saltwater protect radiation in case of nuke war and there were underwater cities? (Just a thought I ......well.....just thought)



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    I wish it was a bette world where we are actually trying stuff like this.
     
  15. Revolution Registered Senior Member

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    The Human Smurfs Though:


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  16. Shaununderwater Registered Member

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    Right on man....
     
  17. zira Registered Senior Member

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    Underwater living

    At first glance, underwater living could be a solution of humanity survival in case of an asteroid impact.

    But I think the refugees under water would have nothing to eat very soon, because dust in the atmosphere, and lack of sunshine, would interrupt photosynthesis not only on land, but also in the sea.

    No algues, no plancton, no fish...
     
  18. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Some fish might survive on the decaying matter swept into the sea.
     
  19. Shaununderwater Registered Member

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    You got it wrong guys, how bout the simple fun of living underwater?
     
  20. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    And being in constant fear of leaks and broken CO2-scrubbers.
     
  21. Shaununderwater Registered Member

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    Nah, you have a satelite pontoon with a generator and compressor
    for additional air and power supply.
    As for leaks, you can see any leak because of the bubbles escaping, then you concrete over them.
    You wouldnt need scrubbers.
    As well you have hydroponics systems to generate CO2-O2 exchange.
     
  22. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    wasnt there a movie ab an underwater society?
    anyways, i say earth is overcrowded, why do that? go to space! its bigger! besides what is the kick in digging underwater tunnels, we already have tunnels under rivers.
     
  23. rayzinnz Registered Senior Member

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    If you created a living area under-sea, it wouldn't take much of a marketing genius to get people extremly interested in going there for a holiday. - sort of like a hotel, and you could make a business of it and help mankind at the same time.

    ha ha!
     
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