music in colour

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  1. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    how do some people see msic in colour?
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Synesthesia.
    "stimulation of one sensory or cognitive pathway leads to automatic, involuntary experiences in a second sensory or cognitive pathway"
     
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  5. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    250 micrograms of lysergic acid diethylamide?
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Dang. I'd like to change my answer please.
     
  8. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure I understand the question... Are you asking if some people see colors when listening to music - or are you asking if some people hear music when looking at colors?
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.

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    They're both flavours of Synesthesia.
     
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  10. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    i would like to have one of those
     
  11. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    first one thank you
     
  12. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    There are actually quite a few varieties of synaesthesia--according to wiki, at least 80. I have varying degrees of chromesthesia and a particularly weird (apparently) form of mirror-touch synaesthesia, most likely as a consequence of a serious childhood head injury and consequent seizure disorder. Funny thing is, I didn't realize that most people didn't have this until i was in my early 20's--it explains a lot of miscommunication.

    The color and sound form, with me, varies greatly in degree and intensity, but it is remarkably consistent with regards to correspondence--I can make a notation of an association, and whenever I experience it, it will be virtually the same. Also, the association is much stronger with respect to waveform and tone color, and is fairly limited with respect to pitch, and some other aspects--except, I can see some harmonic progressions and sequences as color, with depth, over time. There's probably a better way of expressing that--especially as the temporal aspect isn't really experienced temporally--but I don't know what that would be. Likewise, some audible phenomena are far more likely to trigger this than others--I still have difficulty with accepting that most people do not see Olivier Messiaen organ pieces.

    It's actually a very useful tool for composition. It's like having an extremely efficient sort of shorthand.

    The empathic form only seems to work with non-human forms of life, and is strongest with--not surprisingly, I suppose--fuzzy mammals. I once reminisced about a peculiar reaction to an antibiotic with painstaking detail to a friend, only to realize, eventually, that I was actually talking about her dog. The peculiar aspect is that I am almost wholly lacking in empathy for people. In retrospect, that I did not recognize this as atypical for so long is kind of unsettling.
     
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  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    IMO, this is an indication of various percerptive (hallucinatory) abilities the brain is capable of as a functional system of Common perception.
    In reality is it just that some people (experience) nature from a different perspective.
    It is only when our sensory and hallucinatory image agrees in general we call that Reality.
    This little lecture by Anile Seth, illustrates how the mirror function works.

    https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality
     
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  14. Kylo Renskins Registered Member

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    A classmate had synesthesia; from what he said he could taste colours.
     
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  15. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    ever asked how it taste compared to food?
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Rather ask him if him/her begins to salivate hearing certain sounds. That would be a proof of synesthesia.

    OTOH, the word taste can be used as a purely physical oral experience or an abstract experience.
    Such as "he had a taste of danger" or, one could taste the tension", a musical chord tastes fat or thin (full or incomplete), his trumpet had a fat (mellow, sweet, well rounded) sound.
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    IOW, the context defines the meaning of the word "taste" both as a direct sensory experience and a more abstract mirror neuron function connecting the taste with color or taste translations. As Anil Seth proposes; a best guess by the brain from available data.

     
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