I'm seeing a lot of people decrying that the UK terrorist attacks are due to military action in the middle east. I can see that the UK has only done limited bombing in the Syria this year but I cannot find a graph that shows military interventions by the UK in the middle east over time. I'd have though this would be easy, can anyone enlighten?
Just people online and I can;t makes a confidant call on their credibility because I cannot find the relevant evidence.
I think it can be pretty much summed up with solid reference to what one of the jihadists apparently yelled (in English) as he stabbed a young woman 15 or so times... "This is for Allah!" The fact that it happened in the UK and not else where is really a question of opportunism rather than planning IMO.
Really? I mean really? I'm fairly certain that UK didn't start bombing any group before terrorist attacks And do you think if the UK stopped bombing terrorist attacks would magically stop? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
"This is for Allah" isn't what most Muslims would yell but maybe they acclimated to the UK to that extent. It doesn't really matter where something like this occurs in the West. There is no logic to it other than to completely turn Western Governments against all Muslims so that in turn increases Muslim support for an Islamic State.
Perhaps they are just taking using whatever opportunity comes their way. I think that's the most likely reason.
You nailed it. These terrorists are nothing more than common criminals and we should treat them that way. They want to bait the West into a holy war with Islam. Unfortunately, we have an idiot in the White House who wants to take the bait. These terrorists and would be terrorists should be ashamed for themselves. They disgrace the god they claim to worship.
I mentioned this because strictly speaking we are not talking about terrorism. We are talking about "Soldiers of Allah" (vessels), literally prepared to do as Allah commands them to do including suicide. (murder suicide) They appear not to be particularly interested in overthrowing government or converting people to Islam. They are not evangelizing Islam. They are committing acts using a ritual knife if possible ( Halal (?) - aka bleed to death) They are doing as their Allah tells them to. ( a form of "collective" paranoid schizophrenia - hearing Allah speak to them) This is not typical terrorism. It is religious death cultism. Suicidal End timers. Until the world (including moderate Islam) gets a handle on what exactly we are confronting this problem will find no solution. totally agree with you on this one...
nope! it has some terrorist attributes sure... but it is primary an end times death cult, sort of "All must die " type death cult...it has no political agenda beyond establishing it's caliphate and the imminent grave of martyrdom. It is not demanding political change. Not even Sharia law. They simply has no care for anything other than the particular ideology they espouse. ( Sex slavery and intimidation ( power))
All recent attacks except one have been "murder suicide". Prior to the ISIL phenomena how many terrorist murder suicides did we have? ISIL welcome death.
Another attack but here in Melbourne about 30 minutes drive away (murder suicide): "Police say they are treating yesterday's shooting and hostage situation in Melbourne, which left two people dead, including a gunman linked to plans to attack the Holsworthy Army base, as terrorism." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-06/islamic-state-claims-responsibility-for-brighton-siege/8591540 The Australian PM was also on morning news conference looking very worried indeed!
My understanding is that this wave of attacks can be linked to the military failure of Daesh in Iraq and Syria. They have been pushed out of almost all the territory they held. Also quite a lot of their foreign fighters have gone home demoralised and angry. They struggle even to make bombs, so now they exhort their followers to mow down innocent people in cities with vehicles and stab them with kitchen knives. So in this sense the attacks are linked to (successful) Western military action in the Middle East, but you will not see a simple correlation between numbers of bombing runs in Syria and numbers of terrorist attacks. The broader picture is that ill-advised* military adventures, principally by the US and the UK, in Iraq and Libya have destabilised the region and bred resentment, which has encouraged the growth of these groups, just as many of us could see would happen. * this is a polite way of saying f***ing stupid
