IF he had lost yes yes I would, I would accept I was wrong and change my ways, but we don't live in that world, we live in the world where I was right and anyone that voted for Clinton in the primary was wrong. There is no proof Bernie would have lost, none, there is undeniable proof though that Clinton lost.
You do that. Here's your quote: And there was a time when you knew better. This rewritten history is of fairly recent composition - right about the time Fox and Breitbart and 4chan and CNN and the like started in with the same language, same take; adapting "regressive left" from its original context, etc. They didn't in the primary. They didn't for Clinton in the general - not like Obama, anyway. No, she probably didn't - I haven't seen exit polling data on which blacks went for Trump. The vote just didn't show up (or didn't get counted, as in Detroit et al). You aren't reading the stats carefully - percentages are always of a total.
#AlternativeCurrents Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Like, maybe, a racist? Because they should have voted for the candidate whose political argument relied on delegitimizing black people?
You making up these crazy conspiracy theories in your head, dam. I was a Bernie supporter a year ago, and I have had my qualms with the SJW since 2014. If Bill Mahar can call you a regressive, so I can I. Yeah so? Are you saying Trump was a shoeing no matter what? "Oh there is nothing we did wrong, nope, it just the racist white supremacist won, that all, lets not change anything, keep voting for corporatist democrats!" Lets assume that the Blacks would not have turned out for Bernie anymore then they did not turn out for Hillary in the general, which you admit they didn't. Well then bernie would have had to make up the numbers with more millennial and white blue collar workers, which he would have considering his superior standing with them over Clinton. Well I have posted exit poll date before, let me see if I can find a link [5 seconds on google] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ey-did-heres-the-data/?utm_term=.c536f4c7e460 So you justify your choice for the guaranteed loser Clinton because you have no proof Sanders would have won... great logic there. ... your saying Bernie sanders was a racist? Hillary Clinton gets away with calling Black youth "super predators" and supported a tough on crime bill that put hundreds of thousands of black men in jail for petty offenses like smoking pot... so what did Bernie do, eat a black baby? How the fuck is bernie sanders delegitimizing black people?
I hadn't realized that I was going to enjoy this. You seem to be in a continual rolling amnesiac loop, suppressing and denying ever later memories as time goes by. The Bill Maher link I posted was just a couple of weeks ago. Romney was 2012, not 2008, you don't have the data that tells you which of those blacks voted for Trump, and last but not least, the headline is deceptive - the report is of percentages, the same as your befuddled claims. So that link is irrelevant.
And we're supposed to believe you have a clue what you're on about. (1) #3374118/124↗ (2) #3375169/139↗ (3) #3375170/140↗ See, the one thing is that maybe you don't like my analysis. The other thing, though, is that your pretense of ignorance does not lend well to your other pretense of knowledge, comprehension, and wisdom.
Lol, let me get this straight, you string together some contrived dirt on Bernie like the Republicans did Hillary, only 1/1,000,000th as much, and I'm suppose to be like "oh yes your right we totally should have gone with Hillary"... WHO LOST and now President Trump is "delegitimizing black people"! Has it occurred to you that Bernie sanders would be better for Blacks than Donald Trump? All of you are literally so butt hurt that you would vote for that loser Hillary again! If your choices were accepting you were wrong verse seppuku you would choose seppuku! Look at this one: So you think trump is a better choice than sanders? Because Hillary is not president right now, trump is, so your vote for her might as well have been a vote for him, either that or we could have tried another candidate... I was not talking about 2008, I was talking about 2012 verse 2016! You just set up a blatant strawman! Look at you flail! Jesus, I think pjdude1219 was right, I have driven you all insane, you are so hell bent on not accepting that you choose wrong... I will cool it for awhile, but the signature and the bad ass harpy of your shame avatar, stays up.
So all the stuff about name recognition and so forth is no longer operative. Ok. My comments on the irrelevance of your link are still live, of course, and all related matters - my posting, in other words, if you care about actual postings. Oh yeah - especially that part where I was calling you "Berniebro" and screaming names at rural white folks for not liking Clinton and pushing for Clinton and voting for Clinton in the primary. That's my favorite so far. Because you were there, in the threads, reading my posts, responding, etc., while all that was happening. You have first hand knowledge, and your own memories to rely on. It was less than a year ago. No excuse whatsoever. And that pattern is the increasingly central fact of American politics, for the past thirty five years. It isn't just one or two guys like this. It's the entire core voting base of the Republican Party, most of the major media, and all of the analysts that get distribution in the public arena. The handle their cognitive dissonance by developing a rolling amnesia. That is how the Republican Party cut loose from fact and history and became a Party of myth and fantasy.
Nope. Anyone would be better than Trump. I know you'd prefer that Sanders lost instead of Clinton; that's fine. Trump would still be president.
Yes, yes, your a fatalist, you could not have stop this, nothing could, you did not choose poorly. Imagine you could go back in time, that every Clinton primary voters could go back and time and tell themselves "Clinton will lose" would you change your vote just to see if Bernie would win? Your conflating the issue of name recognition with the black vote turn out, either your doing unknowingly, or intentionally out of childish spit. Two separate arguments 1. Obama had not nam,e recognition, yet won in the 2008, ergo Bernie lacking name recognition is not an issue. 2. Trump had better black voter performance than Romney, Clinton could not even get out the black vote. I don't care, the issue is that you choose the loser candidate, not some link I spent 5 seconds pulling up, nothing can change that fact. Do you deny using that derogatory term? Do you deny voting for Clinton in the primary? Do you deny advocating for Clinton in the primary? Yes, YES loop this into your conspiracy theory and the grand elders of the republinami order, who totally wanted trump and planned for him since years ago.
Both are bogus. 1) Obama had great publicity in 2008, with name recognition all over the world, and the immediate fresh disaster of the previous administration in front of everyone. And Bernie lacking name recognition was an issue, observably and observed, especially among the black voters of the Confederacy where Clinton won the nomination, regardless of Obama's status. If you insist that Obama was equally afflicted, Sanders's comparative inability to overcome it in the primary - with a much smaller audience to reach - lessens the likelihood of Sanders's winning the general. 2)Trump did better than rich white racist Romney in percentage terms, but that is skewed by Clinton's loss of black votes and by the superior voting suppression set up in 2016. You need the absolute vote, and you need it as percentage of registered voters, and you need information on past vote of those black voters, to draw your conclusions. You don't have any of that. Why yes, I do. I did none of that - quite the opposite. Loudly and repeatedly and at some length the opposite. And you used to know that. Just a few months ago you knew that. So what happened?
yeah yeah sure sure. You keep trying to claim Bernie would not win verse the guarantee that Clinton did not win. ... huuuh, well then maybe I'm confusing you with someone else, I did leave for awhile because I was disgusted with Tiassa and Bells, oh well my bad.
Trump or Clinton? Wow, what a choice. It's like someone placed two dishes in front of you, each with a pile of shit, and they ask you "which one do you prefer?"
Please demonstrate your case. You just made that up. Let you get what straight? Let you get your own make-believe straight?
What make-beleive? That Hillary lost? That Hillary called black youth "super predators" and approved of the tough on crime laws that had imprisoned hundred of thousands of blacks, yet you feel Bernie was "delegitimatizing blacks"? Yeah those are all facts.
This part: Why did you change the subject? Is it that you just aren't smart enough to answer the real issue? Note your phrase, "and I'm suppose to be like". It's a complete change of subject. You made it up out of thin air. Stop lying. Stop trolling.
Well then what do you want? You keep defending a loser, A LOSER, that lost to a fucking pig boar whose rule we have to live under now. What is your objective in this? I just had to deal with a crying grad student who is likely to be kicked out of the nation, all I could tell her is that I tried.
