Christian Fundamentalism vs. Islamic Fundamentalism

I am kind of talking about the "death to all those not like us" types and the "you will all burn for not believing in the same thing as us" types who pop up every so often.

This incluses some islamic groups now and during the moorish invasions, christians during the crusades and inquisition, the hindus during their assorted clashes with the muslims, and many more examples.

 

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Clockwood

About the only thing that is changed is that the tactics of the inquisition are no longer practiced by Christians. Certain denomination do seem to have a fascination with ringing my freaking door bell incessantly however.

As far as the Islamics I don't see any gravitation away from violence.

 

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Vienna

Well i am sorry to say this but the mostly christian west doesnt leave the Middle E. alone so that they can prosper. Everytime when the Middle E. is doing fine something bad happens. Its not Christian fundamentalism that leads to the things you said but hard work. How can you relate those things with fundamentalism?
Please check the backgrounds of the known Islamic?! terrorist groups. In almost all of them you can find the fingerprints of the west.

So are also the so called Islamic terrorists

I want you to prove this please. Never heard about this before.

 

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Vienna

Interesting link . Yet it has little to do with Islam in any way . Its quite the secular thing wouldnt u say ?


Arie Stav describes the similarities between Islam and Nazism


Not really he desrcibes between Arab Nationalism (soon to be semi-socialism at the time (ba'ath etc)) and Nazional Sozialism , but hey I understand the efford of evil Islam


Hitler was "Islamicized" and known by his new name Abu Ali


LMAO

Hey Im not a "source not content" refuter , I cant refue any content yet because I havent read it completely and profound , but I do want to remind that this piece is written by Arie Stav from "Americans (Arie's a Jew) for a safe Israel .

Please dont respond with "u and ur zionistpigs" bla bla , its just reasonable to KNOW that the objective of this article is to give Arabs a bad name . That doesnt mean truths arent told , it doenst mean they are either . It just means there is something to consider when u read the article .

Anyways Im interested to see if this "connection" has similar logics of : conspiracy , antisemitism blabla , as does the zionist-nazi connection ( something that is ACTIVE)

Prob not.........this is probably all logic isnt Arabs and Nazi's , they both hate jews and thats that........man with this line of thought there's gonna be quite some more holocausts of various peoples in the coming years .

 

Islam is against terrorism:

http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com

 

Re: Re: Vienna

And this will certainly open your blind eyes about the JEWISH CONNECTION WITH NAZISM:

Zionism and Nazism

Zionism and Nazism actually have a great deal in common. They are a desire for national identity, national socialism, "self-determination", and "freedom" from those who might be called "troublemakers". In fact, they are both philosophies of imagined racial superiority and purity, which have rationalized all of their actions in the name of some greater "good". And, they each conceal a deeper evil at their core.

http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/prophecy/23/Essays/Zionazi.htm

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You?

http://www.iap.org/jewspal.htm

GERMAN JEWISH ZIONISTS OFFERS TO COLLABORATE WITH THE NAZIS:

http://www.codoh.com/zionweb/zizad/zizad5.html

 

Vienna, how much I love to embarrass you and show your hate and ignorace:

Christian Terrorism In Oklahoma City

http://www.ffrf.org/fttoday/may95/oklahoma.html

More christian terrorism:

http://skepdic.com/essays/secondcrusade.pdf

 

Vienna,
The same argument can be made regarding terrorism and Islam.

 

The problem proud Syrian is that Christian terrorism in a Christian country is not going to be called Christian terrorism. But we do have some Christian terrorists like the IRA, but hardly are they called Christian terrorists, now I don't know what they call Al Qaeda or Hazbollah in the ME but I am sure they are "freedom fighters" first above all else, we all have our double standards.

 

Wouldn't go that far Vienna. There have been Christian terrorists, its just they are few and far between at the moment. Not in the numbers you would find muslims blowing people up in.

Also (for example) the pope is not pressing for Catholics to go kill the infidels. Many islamic religious leaders are.

 

There is no such thing as a Christian terrorist

If that were true, then why would the IRA be fighting? They are fighting Protestants, are they not?

Speak for yourself, if religion has to be brought into this equation, then terrorists are angels of death and represent the devil himself.

Most terrorist groups are religious, not secular. SO then how can't we bring in religion?

 

I AM ATHIEST

and would love to see all religions banned and vanish from the face of the Earth, except Buddhism.

Nico: The IRA "conflict" is nothing to do with religion, don't let them kid you on that for one minute - its an excuse thats all. The people fighting, on both sides, or rather those that "were" fighting have one common denominator - lack of religion. What either side spout is not what they believe but what they think they are "supposed" to say..........

 

nico,
That's a catholic/protestant thing, complicated by the whole nationalist/loyalist debate, but at the end of the day, made irrelevant by the fact that they're all thugs at the end of the day.

 

What the..? Who are these Islamic religious leaders? Who is an Islamic leader? Ottoman Empire was the caliph and the leader of the Islamic World but Mustafa Kemal ATATURK said there is no such thing as Caliph and abolished it. So there is no person like a pope in Islam. I also find it very strange that there is still a pope in the Christian Culture.

Even if the Pope would say that the Christians should kill the infidels. No one would listen o him. Look at President Bush, even he didnt listen to the pope.

 

On the contrary, in recent years many abortion clinics have been bombed in the name of fundamentalist christianity, and quite a few blacks, jews, hispanics, native americans, asians, pacific islanders, and inuit have been slain in the name of the same cause.

The actions of fundamentalist muslims who drive planes into towers can be equated with the actions of fundamentalist christians who burn and shoot non-whites in the name of christianity. (remember, nearly all white supremacist groups are religious based on christianity)

 

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE CHRISTIANS DOESNT MEAN THAT THE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS EVIL. THOSE PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING GOOD BUT WERENT. THE BIBLE SAYS NOT TO KILL. IT IS POSSISBLE FOR CHRISTIANS TO DO EVIL BECAUSE WE ARE ALL PEOPLE. AND ALL PEOPLE ARE SINNERS.

 

You see , this is just when a guy starts yelling at a foreigner because he doesnt understand the language .........

Bigger letters wont make people agree with you , I dont think they're vision/sight is the obstacle but the mind .

Vienna , how about if we leave out christianity and look at how many black killed whites and visa versa , if u wish to go into that direction ...........

Nono Vienna , just because a group isnt objecting civillians casualties (thats ur defintion right ? ) doesnt mean they have no faith or religion or whatever .

The one is quite independant from the other in sofar , that as they fall together they do have the possibillity to function in favor of eachother . Doesnt mean one is because of the other .

 

First: Turn down the loud font. Even a short message in 72 point font can take up the whole page.

Second: True enough but anti-abortion bombings and the like are usually more limited in number and scale.

Also I think every ethnic group has its own supremacist nuts backed by one religion or another.


Nobody is ever completely free of blame. Its just some are in an upswing of insanity and some have allready gotten that out of their systems.

 

First off Islam, Jewdaism and Christianity have done alot more good then they have done harm.

The reason why there are less Christian terrorist then Muslim terrorist is because the average Christians have more money at the moment. A person with a mercedez benz and house in malibu is not going to blow himself up in the middle of a mall.

Religion is only being used as the medium for terrorism. Hitler used nationalism. USSR used communism. Religion is the medium because the other social institutions are week. The economy sucks, the schools arent doing well, families are seperated by trajedy and the goverments are oppresive. When one institution outwieghs and dominates the others bad things happen.

 

Clockwood, Vienna

Please go to page 2 and answer my question.. thanks
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Vienna, are you talking to me. If you are talkin to me then i must say to you that you are totally wrong. I wasnt happy when the twin towers collapsed. No normal man coud do such thing and be happy about such a terrible day.