sorry ,but i´m not sitting the whole day in front of my pc If you could read fast enough then it would take all day! LOL (that was good) so ,you are from toronto.... Yes! don´t you have own problems ? Yes! perhaps you should care about your own stuff ,eh ? Maybe Neo-fascist, euro-centric little ignorant and arrogant boy! I'd bet your from E.Germany, I know Honecker was a bad man ! LOL Oh yes how many people died in the concentration camps? Anyways isn't it very late in Germany right now? It looks like you do stay all day on your PC.
i think you said enough ,nicole Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! you almost scare me a bit :bugeye: i bet ,even now you are waiting for my next reply i´m always astonished how stupid people can be ..... staying at home the whole day isn´t equal to sitting in front of my pc ,right ? ps : Neo-fascist, euro-centric little ignorant and arrogant boy sounds to me more then a bit jealous
i think you said enough ,nicole According to who... you. Like I give a S*** you almost scare me a bit Actually you scare me refusing to answer a simple question, how many innocent people did Germany kill? i bet ,even now you are waiting for my next reply Like you weren't? RIGHT Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! i´m always astonished how stupid people can be ..... I know and you've proved it to me. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! staying at home the whole day isn´t equal to sitting in front of my pc ,right ? No, but trying to read posts all day is! I mean how ling did it take you to write this post what 20 mins. LOL sounds to me more then a bit jealous I don't even think you know what that meant!
Wasi Wie gehts wie stehts... Please dont say that Turks in Germany have the same rights as any other German citizen. I mean try to see the real picture here. Those Turks cant go back anymore beacuse they are in a very difficult situation. When they go to Turkey they are called Germans when they go back to Germany then they are called Turks. Got the picture? I didnt watch the movie my big fat greek wedding but i ll watch it when i have time. I dont know why you gave that movie as an example but you know there are millions of movies that are nothing but propaganda. Look at the second world war movies. Bad germans good Americans. Its always the same. Can you show me a Hollywood movie where they show Nagasaki or Hiroshima burning after the atomic bomb. I am telling you Turks and Greeks are getting closer day by day. People on the streets have changed their point of view dramaticaly after the Earthquake in Turkey.
hi soulcry ,alwas nice to see some german words here at sciforums ! i said they have the same rights like i have ,i said nothing about their problems.... sure they have problems with getting home without being called germans ,but is this a german problem ? no ,because these turks deceided to live and earn money here since 30 years ,and really ,most of them don´t want home .... they are the biggest groups after germans themselves that live in germany most of them got kids here ; why should these kids move to turkey ? yeah ,right ,they will be turks for the most germans ,but that doesn´t say they have less rights here ! and to the movie : i just said this name because it was the only one i knew in the moment i don´t take my education from movies ,but this movie was made by an greek .... and the turks won´t find this movie funny i think ! but hey ,let´s forget this movie if you say turks /greeks are getting closer ,it´s no problem for me or anybody else from euroland nobody played games on them ;perhaps we cared too less about this situation but hell, no ,we don´t play games on you
Originally posted by nico Actually you scare me refusing to answer a simple question, how many innocent people did Germany kill? not enough ,so we´ll start slaughtering all this fucking jews again ;let´s start tomorrow and begin with freakin nico from toronto (ps : germany is a country ,and since i had education i know that a country can´t kill people ,only people kill people) Like you weren't? RIGHT ohhhhh ,had the bad bad nico to go without my reply to bed... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I don't even think you know what that meant! if i don´t know what it means ,i don´t use it Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
So our culture is a laugh, then what are you doing in Europe? A parasiting Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Soul And u wanna be a part of them ? Take care for your own man and nevermind EU , help the Kurds instead not to run in the hands of USA for good with Kurdistan . when people say geography they mean culture an that brings us to religion . Why make the border there ? because its not christian thats why . How about Albania , that country is being about denied to exist , its the poorest country in Euro , and Muslim . I completely agree on Euro especially in the south its siomply facism in Italy people even sell swastika signs on the streets along with their crazy soccer-fascist movement , spain its the same crap (the gypsies are repressed in entire southern euro extremely) , the france have "negro-leftovers" in their country and plenty arabs from north africa they rather send back to algeria . Germany doesnt liek its Kurds and Turks either , Netherlands and Belgium has problems with Maroccans , the Brits with everything not-brittish , Euro is one racist bitch and nobody cares . That doesnt mean that Turkey hasnt been acting quite disgusting with the Kurds and Cypriots , and the level how it has been done cannot be denied to be quite more serious than the EU racism . The levels differ immense in EU they dont come into your village to ethnic cleanse the place for terrorists . i dont know about what teh Greeks feel about things , but I do know that as far as the Turks as a people go , the Yugo war did alot of good . Like the Jew-effect in euro post ww2 , only ofcourse a bit less . thats the spirit Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I see you have discovered the friendlyness of the European Imperialists ? Nico Or that Ariel Sharon ethnic cleansed 2 villages . Wasi Bullshit Wasi having the same rights on paper doesnt mean you hav ethe same rights in practice , there is plenty discriminaton and racism systematicall even , in germany and elsewhere in Euro . Being called Muhammad wont get u any decent job nowadays bro . Not even in Germany . I know how people look at my systers for being covered , people even asking them if they're oppressed and if they're damn husbands should be turned over to local authorities , bearded man are being followed around , the youth gets harassed by copps daily , man in Germany they even discriminate between east and west , up untill this very day . What do you mean ? A miracle , but what about the others who werent so economically attractive enough to invest in and to help ? Im for the state of Israel with Berlin as its capital . They civilized the barbarians , they thought them science , then the barbarians needed wars and when they lost they blamed the people that brought Marx , Freud , Nietzche , Einstein .........JFK should have said , Ich bin ein Jude , not ein Berliner . Thats true Yeretz Israel right there . Soul Or how about : Avraham Stern : Gas Supplier Or how about : Vladi Jabotinsky , the pizza man Or how about : How I started selling ties , by Ralph Lipschitz(Lauren) . Hey did u know in Arabia we got this soap-drama thingie that is about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion , seriously its about these old Jews trying to take over the world by that Nilus book Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Wasi No offense , but how do u feel about : Wir haben Es Nichts Gewussen ? theoretic rights are worthless to practical life $ no man whats it it about and what was the point in bringin it up ? sure , a country full of people Bachus Parasiting ? Nah........ Profiting ? Yes Yes
And there is racisme is EU???? Seems you are being a bit racist here. No we mean that 90% of Turkye is NOT in Europe Well You're free to leave So we just have to let anyone in? Like having a decent job? Participate in society?
allah ,your posts here are getting too long and complex......Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Bullshit Wasi having the same rights on paper doesnt mean you hav ethe same rights in practice , there is plenty discriminaton and racism systematicall even , in germany and elsewhere in Euro . Being called Muhammad wont get u any decent job nowadays bro . Not even in Germany . I know how people look at my systers for being covered , people even asking them if they're oppressed and if they're damn husbands should be turned over to local authorities , bearded man are being followed around , the youth gets harassed by copps daily , man in Germany they even discriminate between east and west , up untill this very day . if you speak about racism that can be found in every place on this planet ,so please admit that´s not only a euro-prob ,ok ? tell me a place (except perhaps small isles without population) where racism couldn´t be found ! (ps : i never said that racism is right ) they discriminate between east and west ?why are you saying this ?can´t i get the same job ,education ,wealth and so on if i was from the eastern side ? of course ,some people make jokes about east-west ,but just think about the word "yankee" ! next point do you really want to hear why i think this movie tells me a lot ? look ,there was an old woman (greek) ,an on every corner ,she saw turks (if you know what i mean)...... this movies shows a bit of the greek´s hate (mostly the older ones i think ) A miracle , but what about the others who werent so economically attractive enough to invest in and to help ? poland ?economically attractive ? no way allah ,you are wrong with that point it´s nothing to fix in poland ,you have to rebuild the country ! No offense , but how do u feel about : Wir haben Es Nichts Gewussen ? to say it right : Wir haben es nicht gewusst sorry ,but i have problems with understanding it (not the grammar ,i mean the sense) are you speaking about something like : "we never knew that" ? are you speaking about the words of some germans that used this sentence as "shield" ? allah ,please understand this is no offense to me ,cause i never harmed or even killed somebody allah ,enough for now allways glad to discuss with you:m:
How am I racist by saying : Take care for your own man and nevermind EU Where in here do you see races ? Am I racist because I judge economically ? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! 90% of Turkey is not in Europe , LMAO . You make up all these borders defining Europe and then you say Turkey isnt in . You just pissed because couple of years ago it WAS in and not just a bit . Hey , you're great at border-creating everywhere around the globe , make a nice euro one as well , one including the Turks You're just pissed cause Im free to stay as well . Or pay them , U choose . 1)I dont think you should bring in such ethically loaded words like decent as we certainly do not have the same system of moral values . 2)I dont think any capitalistic job is decent (But Im sure that other functions in society u find decent as well) 3)I have no $ worries . Visa Versa with decent transport . Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! As you are so nice to ask me questions that are none of your business , let me aks you are you European ? I bet you are Dutch too arent you ? Or maybe Danish ..... nah Id go for Dutch . :m:*White Widow* How do you feel about the fact that I have EU passport and am considered as any other native EU ? Is that something you feel should be restricted to "certain" ethnicities ? Or do you believe its all good ? Be honest man nobody gonna kill u at sciforums .
Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Bullshit it happens between the authority's ethnicity and minority (or majority sometimes) , nobody says its only in Euro , but its Western civilization that has created about every racist problem on this globe that is to be dealt with . Sure everybody did all sorts of things Im not blaming a particular people , but I do see a particular people responsible regarding what is today everywhere . Lets not confuse the racism here and there that actually deals with anything else than the peoples with $ and the peoples without . Its not an Euro prob , its an Aussie prob , its an America (both) prob . All the other are regime racism and tribal wars , guess who caused those ? So to say racism is everywhere I think is a bit bullshit . Its everywhere , but its not from everywhere . Its from where $ is . Oh please , look at the $ between east and west . Im sorry but if a child gets born without the same than another because of 100km difference , I think thats just sad . Sam ething is being done in Turkey . They say they dont discriminate Kurds , yet the Kurds live in the poor south-east part , while the other side for the Sunni's is all good and propsorous , I think thats discriminating . Its not judgingh directly by race , but its systemizing entire ethnicities into lower classes . Yes I wanna hear Im interested in ethnical movies it shows great things u might notice if ur simply not part of the ethnicity . Have U ever seen the movie No Mans Land ? Deals with the Muslim-Serbian conflict in Bosnia . Wonderfull movie really . Like I said it was economically attractive to invest , what u think its all charity , its serious business man where profit counts . U rebuild if u see profit to rebuild , U dont just go and rebuild like some loonatik without wanting a hand in it , these things are robin hood fairytales . Good thing its no offense it shouldnt be , but there are people who feel offensed by whatever critic they receive about their country so...... I mean indeed Germans saying this as an excuse to the entire Nazi period and holocaust . The try to present themselves as not guilty of what happened just because Hitler was in power . We all know Hitler didnt come into power by force , and that Crystlanight wasnt something that accurd just like that . There are plenty of Germans that were in HitlerJugend , or in any other supportive organizations , while most simply were happy with the present state of being like the Americans for instance are right now . I was wondering what you feel about these attitude certain Germans have , instead of being honest they blaim everything on Hitler and not themselves . I mean ofcourse nobody that wasnt there is to be blamed , I speak of those who were .
Turks vs Europeans Those borders were created a long time ago and did not include Turkey (for the most part) so why should i draw a new one including Turkey? I don't even watnthem in the EU Then don't complain We have to pay them because?????? Fair enough, decent on our standards How did you think i was Dutch or Danish? Well you are already in so we just have to learn to get along. I am however for closing the borders and no immigration marriages. /edit forgot the damn bold tags again
lol 1)A Turk isnt a race neither is a Euro . 2)if that WAS racism (witch it wasnt) , then this is as well : Now I know ur a Dutchie Anyways : Dutch-NonDutch(immigrators) PS : Ud be pleased to know that I support Illegal Immigration Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! and even longer ago they were different (including Euro) , whats your point ? U have an ammount of years in your mind that makes it valid , what 20 , 30 , 100 ? I know u dont want Turkey in , Euro doenst want Turkey in , u tell it to all the Turks here posting who wannabe part and wont believe U wont want them . Now why wouldnt I complain ? Are you making me ? I dont think so , I can complain whatever you want , and there's shit u can do about it . I dont like it here , I dont like the people here , yet Im staying here and Im complaining as well . get over it . I think you owe them , U ofcourse disagree . and that is ? The name Bachus . Its Dutch (I thought Danish but its Dutch no doubt) we aint gonna get along mister , only thing u need to learn is that I have no obligations to you yet I can profit from everything I want . PS , if u are indeed Dutch ......how U felt about your lil' Pim ?
Turkish are arabs (if i'm not mistaking) Europeans are mostly Caucasian) I support the deathpenalty for illegal immigration See later on in this post I don't owe em jack shit, for all i care we stop with the aiding funds even. Care to tell my why i would owe them? It's a God nobody in Holland is called Bachus Untill the next time the Europeans had enough of it and start taking action yes Couldn't care less for him
LMAO , u crack me up dude . 1)Arabs aint a race buddy 2)Turkish aint a race either 3)Caucasian .....lmao lemme hear the theory my man . Is it Blumenbachs ? Oh Oh PS , Turkic is Caucasian as well (quite more caucasian than the other indo-euro's Id say How ridiculous u show urself by saying MOSTLY , proving already yourself wrong . No man , we talking nationalities here , youre implications are HILARIOUS . Oh good thing u ignored the argument that IF it was racist so was your comment , thanks for proving me right TWICE with one sentence . I support deathpenalty for any reason that suits me . Ur guilty , next . Ur responsible for their misfortune , and explenation isnt wanted by you Im sure because u dont agree by defintion . I didnt say it was a name for people in Dutch , I just sayd it was a Dutch name , but I see its the Greek God of Wine , right ? PS http://www.bachusfamily.com But was I right , are you dutch ? at least u know him , that improves your chances . So u are dutch ? whats next time ? what was the previous time ? the Jews ? Hey man , maybe u didnt notice but the disneyland mentality isnt gonna do much , todays euro isnt post-weimar germany . We stronger , smarter , and better armed . Euro's r even scared to walk streets at night , what can the euro's do ? scream really loud ? lol . Those who whine most are the weakest even (belgium , netherlands etc ) Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! ur a funny guy I say its a permanent yes mister .
1)Arabs aint a race buddy That is true, they like the Jews and Ethopians are semitic. (That's a race) 2)Turkish aint a race either I could be wrong but aren't they Mongoloid? 3)Caucasian Aren't modern day Europeans from Iran, or Indo-European?
TURKS CAME FROM THE CENTRAL ASIA AND ARE NOT ARABS Some History Lesson for you guys.. Turks are NOT arabs. Turks came together with the hordes of Genghis Khan all the way from central Asia to Anatolia. Before coming to Anatolia Turks were believing in a monotehist religion but it wasnt Islam. Specifically they believed in the one god Tengri , called Tanri now (same meaning as Allah) When they came to the borders of Arabia they fought with the Arab Muslems for a time and didnt accept Islam just like that. So some of these Turks ran to northern parts, some accepted Islam. Turks were warriors and pretty much knew only how to fight. So the Abbasids took this Turks in to their armies against the Crusaders. Because they were warriors they were very successful in the army. After a while they became to powerful and started to rule over the people who used to rule them. Then they formed the Seljuks. After the collapse of the Seljuks many little tribes formed in Anatolia. One of them was the Ottomans. They slowly defeated all of the other tribes and started to expand to the west and when they captured Constantinople they became an Empire. Then after the first world war Ottoman Empire lost the war together with Germany. So it started to collapse very fast. During that time Mustafa Kemal ATATURK the founder of the Republic of Turkey came and changed many things in a very short time in Turkey to westernize and modernize Turkey. Thanks to him today Turkey is a secular democratic country. Soem facts.. Turkmenistan, Azarbaijan, Ozbekistan... are all Turkic countries in central Asia. There is a part in China where Turks still live. Turkish is a totally different language than arabic or Indo European languages. The roots of Turkish is Ural-Altaic. So its structure is similar to Korean and Finnish. Turkey is a very interesting country. Its a bridge where east meets west. any questions? more detail?
1)Jews are religious sects , hardly any sect is at least a bit semitic , except for Falasha , Mizrahim and maybe Sephardim (although they are heavily mixed in) . Ashkenazim has not one drop of semitic blood in its vains . 2)Ethiopians are mostlly hamitically mixed , but they do resemble typical semitic facial structures (they resemble a lot to sauid arabians . 3)Arabs are not quite that semitic , they are a mix between hamitic , semitic and turkic , and maybe some other less irellevant elements like persian . PS Semitic is a language group first , biblically its a people of Sem , as Hamitic is a people of Ham . Turks are a nationality (Turkey) , but the Turkic peoples can be considered a racial group . They're about the oldest form of traditional caucasian , biblically they come from Japhet . They are not Mongoloid (bibilically decending from Ham) , but they did heavily mixed in with mongoloid as they went east . Indeed , and as the Turkic peoples centred in central asia , to the east they mixed in untill China . A result is : roots of Turkish is Ural-Altaic. So its structure is similar to Korean and Finnish. The Magyars (todays Hungarians) are considered originally a Turkic peoples as well . Yes they are , and that is why the Turkic peoples are so interesting , as they are simply the missing link between Europe and Asia . Caucasus is a Turkic area , Georgians are Turkic . As man moved went through central asia into europe leaving a peoples considered Turkic in the middle of their journey . Yes about : Turks came together with the hordes of Genghis Khan all the way from central Asia to Anatolia Can you elaborate on timelines and give some links on this ? Salaam
