We never went to the moon.

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  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Is there any conspiracy theory you do NOT believe?
     
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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Who destroyed yours?
    Alex
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    When Fat Freddy come scene the scene we can talk about nuts, nuts, nuts, brazil nuts, hazel nuts, walnuts, nuts, nuts, nuts!

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  7. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Seems pretty dishonest, but I guess we should give you some slack since you're crazy.
     
  8. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Most likely, but what if he's divinely inspired?

    Doesn't that give the crazies an absolution?
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    FF, snce you're here, and I don't feel like visting 200 old posts, what is the current stance of the Moon Hoax from your PoV?

    There was once a time that some people thought we didn't go at all, but moderates have backed off that.

    I don't need the whole kit & kaboodle of evidence, just the bottom line.

    Did we send spaceships of any sort to lunar orbit?
    Were any manned?
    Did we land any craft on the Moon?
    Were any manned?
     
  10. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    And to add to that:

    Have we ever sent anything into space (satellites etc.)?
    Have any people actually being into space (International Space Station etc.)?
    Has anything made by human beings ever gone beyond Earth orbit (say more than 50,000 km or so from the surface)?
    Have any human beings ever gone part way to the moon? If so, what was the closest they got to?
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Oh, and also...

    FatFreddy:

    Please do not bring your baggage from other forums here. If anybody is interested in what you have posted on some other forum, they can go to that forum and look at it.

    Insults directed at people who aren't even here to respond are very bad form and make you look like a crank. Don't post that stuff again, ok?
     
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  12. David C On planet earth Registered Senior Member

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    http://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?...8d4d23f7e547&p=1247615&viewfull=1#post1247615
    http://www.giraffeboards.com/showpost.php?s=040fa125d84e5bea6c6526a46905973b&p=1284061&postcount=141
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=164&p=8637956&viewfull=1#post8637956

    Busy, I'm sure there's more. I struggle to find the words at how anyone can be so mad as to do this sort of stuff, but this is a drop in the ocean compared to his history.
     
  13. EddyNashton Registered Member

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    I can understand the doubt but considering this was Nasa first crowning achievement if the moon landing was in fact "A Lie" it makes you wonder about everything else they discovered in space. I mean since we don't all go to space we have to take their word for it. It does not mean they are lying for not letting us but not everyone would be capable of going. Like is there really anything outside of the earth? What if its just a big hologram and there nothing outside earth at all.
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    It certainly would.

    If someone has a world view in which events of worldwide historical fact are doubted, and doubted based only on their rejection of science and history, then they would be wondering about all sorts of things. Did WWII happen? Were TVs really invented? Do cellphones actually work? Are we really just a hologram in a big computer?

    This one wonders how those people could function at all.

    But, since it wasn't a lie, we're all saved.
     
  15. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    What if everything is just big hologram and there is nothing outside of you. Imagine if nothing around you is real that even the chair you sit on and the floor you stand on is not real but just holographic projections. In fact no one around you are real and everything you think you see touch or experience in no more than a projection.
    Imagine there are not even holographic projections that all there is and nothing more is your conscienceness and all you think is real is no more than an illusion.
    You can imagine all that but if you do go and seek imaginary professional help.
    So if there is nothing besides the Earth what is that big glowing ball in the sky... go outside its up there and read more than one book to work out cosmology.
    Alex
     
  16. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    There is footage of zero-G that lasts longer than thiry seconds. As far as I know, it's possible to fake zero-G in a diving plane for about thirty seconds and there's no other way to fake zero-G. Therefore, I'd say the space station is real and it's manned.

    The Surveyor program may have been real but I'm not in a position to be sure.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveyor_program

    I doubt that any vehicles that went beyond three hundred miles up were manned because of this alternative info on space radiation that I've read.
    http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1147.0

    Yes. See above.

    I'm not in a position to be sure about anything but I'd bet that lots of the unmanned mission such as Voyager were real as they can probably build unmanned craft that can withstand radiation that would kill humans.

    See above. According to the alternative info, humans going more than about three hundred miles above the earth would need two meters of lead to protect them from space radiation both in and beyond the Van Allen belts.


    I can't be one hundred percent sure about anything I read about space radiation as it's all second-hand info. The anomalies in the photos and footage* prove that what the government showed us was done in a studio on earth. There are several plausible scenarios that would explain why. The scenario of space radiation being much stronger than we're being told is just one of the plausible scenarios; I think it's the most likely one.


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    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487
     
  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Hm. As mentioned, I'm not looking for the arguments, merely the status.
    It sounds like the particular flavour of hoax you're favoring is the "Van Allen radiation belt" version. i.e. that radiation beyond the VA belt is unsurvivable, thus, we go to LEO but not to the Moon.

    I'm curious why, on one hand, you are willing toss out the vast preponderance of evidence of entire space program as false, yet the evidence about VA radiation is apparently unquestioned. What if the radiation claim is just ... wrong?
     
  19. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Then another of the plausible scenarios for their having had to fake it is the reason they faked it. The anomalies have proven the hoax so the radiation issue isn't about whether they faked it. It's about why they faked it.

    The only people who can be sure of what the true nature and levels of space radiation are are people with high security clearances. All we know is what the government makes public which may or may not be bogus. I'd bet it was bogus. We can only speculate on why they had to fake it but we know they faked it. I just think that space radiation is the most likely reason as they probably had the technology to send manned craft to the moon that didn't have two meters of lead to protect the astronauts. The image of space that they've given us is one of space that could be traveled in without that shielding.

    Before I'd seen the anomalies that prove the hoax, I used to think that they probably really went. I figured that if they could build submarines with life-support systems that could cross the arctic under the ice, they could build a space craft with a similar life support system. Lethal space radiation explains everything.
     
  20. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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  21. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    I've seen a mountain of proof that the footage was faked in a studio* and I've seen zero proof that it was real. Post something you consider to be proof that they really went and we can talk about whether it's really proof.


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  22. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    No. The burden of proof is on you as the one making the extraordinary claims.

    Besides, 'talking' with you is boring as hell.
     
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