Potatoes on Mars

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Plazma Inferno!, Jan 22, 2016.

  1. brucep Valued Senior Member

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    That's very true but the work inside the growing area would require fresh air. I enjoy working in the grow room. That idea kinda bounds my thought process. Thanks for your detailed comments. It would be fun to try to think through all the details associated with such a mission. Or we could read about it. LOL.
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    If the growing area were at 3psi and 60F, all you would need would be an oxygen mask and a jacket.
     
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  5. brucep Valued Senior Member

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    Very true. 60F isn't an optimum temperature so you could probably work in your surfin trunks and oxygen mask if you wanted to. Get a little artificial sunlight at around 75-85F during light time. That's something else I'd want on Mars. A killer wave pool. That would also be cool on the relativistic rocket. It would get really fun when the sublight warp goes offline. LOL. Pretty sure it wouldn't be on your priority list.
     
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  7. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Your the crackpot. I am only stating facts when I said what I did. Nothing has ever been found there that is life. Now they want to travel there and send humans to an environment that is life destroying not life making. If you don't like to hear facts then put me on ignor that way you can say what you want and leave me the hell alone.
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But there have been 4 rovers at different locations which scientists thought would be the best spots for life if there ever was.
     
  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Astronauts going there will never stay for long due to the harsh environment. I can see them going to explore but not to live forever. there. Only business that want to rape the land and extract minerals are going to be the ones that will take greater risks.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure you realize just how limited the rovers are in their searches. OK, we didn't find life just lying about in patches all over the surface.

    True, true. It is human nature to stay in our safe places and not venture out into harsh environments to start new lives. That's why we all still here in the Olduvai Gorge.

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  11. brucep Valued Senior Member

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    • Please do not insult or goad other members.
    You're a scientific illiterate. Your musings aren't facts. That's why I told you to put a cork in it.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. And if you were from Mars, you'd probably think the best chances for life were in Antarctica, where conditions were closest to yours.
     
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  13. ajanta Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...getable-will-grow-on-red-planet-a6826001.html So astronauts are not going there because the mars is not habitable for us. And they wanna send robots/AI to the mars to grow potatoes and may be to make it habitable for human also. At first they have to grow potatoes that astronauts need food.
     
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  14. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But scientists had already explored all of mars with robotic orbiting craft that allowed them to see where the best places for life would be. Once the knew where old river beds were located that is where they sent a rover to investigate as well as other places. So no, Antarctica wasn't the only place that would be viewed but many other places would be besides that. I'm just certain that scientists knew where to go to find life before sending robotic craft there and since they have now looked in many areas and have found none I'd think that they probably won't ever find life dead or alive. But saying that there are more rovers ready to go to mars and find out more information in other areas.
     
  15. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Stick it up your ass!
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Right. And we think that life would have the best chances in places that TERRESTRIAL life would do well - near water sources, where it's warm etc. No one has thought to look at the poles, for example, because that's not where we expect to find life, based on our experience with terrestrial life. Just as a Martian wouldn't think of looking for life near the Amazon, where it is far too hot and humid to allow life as they knew it to exist.
     
  17. Oystein Registered Senior Member

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    You are illiterate, making the same goofy statements here that you do on TSF.
     
  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    What are you bruceps sock puppet?

    Is this all you can do is belittle others along with your buddy? I've put you on my ignore list so just keep it up as I won't be seeing you any longer.

    By the way you should do the same for me that way I won't bother your highly intellectual brain.
     
  19. Oystein Registered Senior Member

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    No, I am not. I don't know him. I've never responded to any of his posts.

    But since you point him out, I do see this: he has twice as many "likes" as you have with 1/9 as many posts. This implies (by a 18:1 margin) that his posts are worthwhile and yours aren't. Just like your goofy illiterate posts over on the TSF forum.
     
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  20. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Is there any reason to think potatoes (or other earth plants) can survive and grow under the constant cosmic ray flux (including the few "daughters" produced in the thin atmosphere) at the surface?
     
  21. brucep Valued Senior Member

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    Just to give you a heads up. The post where I mentioned scientific illiteracy and that personal musings aren't facts I was censured for insulting and goading the member you appear to be disgusted with. The member who told me to shove it up my ass. Best to ignore such comments. The sock puppet thing is nothing more than a childish troll. Thanks for the kind comments.
     
  22. brucep Valued Senior Member

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    Grow food to start with. Think about terraforming when, and if, we decide it's feasible and appropriate. Everything we do outdoors would be terraforming. We'd grow food in a confined space where we could completely control the growing environment. Just like you said.
     
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    As cool as living on Mars would be, I don't know if I could give up pizza. I can't imagine a lifetime without a few pizzas here and there. A guy needs to bring the fixings for a "the works" pizza. That means ya need a few cows and pigs in addition to all the greens.

    I wonder how cows, pigs, chickens and dogs would adapt to space travel and life on Mars. I can't leave my dogs either. Humans need dogs. And we are going to need some trees, apples for starters.

    And if we bring our animals, we will need to feed them too. I'm guessing the early settlers will at least need the equivalent of 50 to 100 Earth acres for that kind of self sufficiency.
     
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