Super-beings and supra-physical beings

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  1. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    We need to distinguish between an external super-being living in the sky and a supra-physical spiritual Being.
     
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  3. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Why?
     
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  5. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    To no longer delude ourselves in the matter of actuality.
     
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  7. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry that you think you are deluding youself.
     
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  8. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Have you not met Spellbound?
     
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  9. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Haha. NO HE HAS NOT!
     
  10. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know for sure?! Hmmmmm?
    Maybe I work at the library....
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    What is a "super-being"?
    What's the difference between an external super-being and an internal one?
    What does "supra-physical" mean, when it comes to beings?
    What is the difference between a super-being and a supra-physical being?
    Can you explain why it is important to distinguish these things?

    What is the matter of actuality?
    How are you deluding yourself about it?
     
  12. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Supra-physical Beings are real because to be supra-physical is simply to exist in a realm that is beyond what we interact with in the everyday human world. A super-being is like a god. And an external super-being is a god that exists separately from everything and everyone. Including you.

    The matter of actuality is that there is a God and He is so Great that nothing in the multi-verse could exist without Him. Including the lesser gods.

    Then Job answered the LORD and said, "I know that You can do all things, And that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted.
     
  13. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    If we don't interact with them, how can you be so sure they are real? Where is your evidence for their existence, given that you say we don't interact with them?
    So not God then, given that God - at least God described within scriptures - does not exist separately.
    So you believe. Now, where's your evidence / support for such a claim?
    "I am what I am" - Popeye.
    See - I can provide quotes as well.
     
  14. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    I fail to see how you could have missed this part "in a realm that is beyond what we interact with".

    I've already provided logical evidence. If you need empirical evidence move to a Shaolin temple or become like God (loving, kind and good).

    Coooooool.
     
  15. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Right, so if we don't interact with them, why do you think they're real?
     
  16. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Because we do.
     
  17. ajanta Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, Mars was real before discover it. And may be there are many intelligent creature than human on earth or in our universe. If it isn't, so what about to search aliens ? May be they can prove themselves to us but we can't prove them.
     
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  18. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    'Supra' is just Latin for 'above'. So 'supra-being' suggests 'higher-being' which suggests 'super-being'.

    I do think that a valid distinction can be made between non-physical being and divine being. Just because a hypothetical being isn't physical wouldn't necessarily make it superior in a religious or moral sense. Being non-physical wouldn't make something worthy of worship.
     
  19. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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  20. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    How does that prove they are real?

    Obviously, nothing can be known of super-beings then.

    How do you know?
     
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  21. Bebelina kospla.com Valued Senior Member

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    Which is?
    Oh, sorry saw you already answered that.
     
  22. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't miss it, hence my question: how can you be so sure they are real if we can't/don't interact with them? Are you going to answer that question, which a number of people have asked?
    No, you've provided, as ever, merely a claim. Where is this "logical evidence"? And what do you even mean by "logical evidence"? If you mean it is evidence that, if taken as a premise, leads validly to the conclusion that such things do exist, then please post the logical argument, starting with the evidence. We can then move from there to assessing the validity and then the soundness of the argument.
    Can you do that for us, please? Is it too much to ask?
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Spellbound: your question contains the implicit premise that supernatural beings exist. As is apparent, this is not an accepted premise for many of the rest of us.

    Would it make sense to start with "This discussion is applicable to believers in (or granters of) supernatural entities only"?

    Otherwise, as has happened, your discussion will never get off the ground unless you can get others to grant the initial premise, even if only for argument's sake.

    To others: I put to you the same thing: given the implicit premise (possibly soon-to-be explicit) that supernatural creatures do exist (even if only for argument's sake), I would argue that it is technically off-topic to ask for evidence of that premise.

    Seems to me, if anyone is going to participate meaningfully in such a discussion, they ought to grant the premise, or be silent on the subject.

    Spellbound? Your call.
     

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