China one step from cloning humans

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by Plazma Inferno!, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. Plazma Inferno! Ding Ding Ding Ding Administrator

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    According to the Chinese scientist employed in Boyalife Group, the world's biggest cloning factory, they have technology advanced enough to replicate humans, but the fear of the public reaction is the only thing that hodls them off.
    Current plans include cloning cattle for booming middle class, racehorses and police dogs, as well as primates (with their South Korean partners) in order to create better test animals for disease research.
    Since there's a small step between primates and humans, there's a reasonable fear that they might start cloning humans.
    Apparently they have a technology ready, but they're restraining themselves, mostly because of possible adverse reaction.

    More info: http://phys.org/news/2015-12-china-clone-factory-scientist-eyes.html

    I guess cloning humans won't happen soon, but's inevitable. What do you think?
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    They've been "one step away" from human clones for about 20 years now. Nothing new here.
     
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  5. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    What would be the point? It's expensive, and it's not like China needs more people.
     
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  7. Plazma Inferno! Ding Ding Ding Ding Administrator

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    Perhaps for creating humans with particular traits or for organ farming.
     
  8. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Cloning is not genetic engineering and organ farming of humans - clones or not - is unethical.
     
  9. Plazma Inferno! Ding Ding Ding Ding Administrator

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    I just realized what I wrote. This happens when you start morning without a coffee, d'uh.

    I agree. But from our own perspective. We don't know what future holds. It may incline toward more practical and colder solutions that would certainly be shocking and disgusting from the perspective of today's ethics.
     
  10. kelkittens Banned Banned

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    They claim cloning an animal before, and say proof Molly? I don't believe it, electric blast creating an embryo! OMG.
    What do starfish, sea cucumbers and planarians have in common?
    A: they are all able to regenerate from a body part.
    e-coli is the only known thing that can reduplicate DNA.
    They use stem cells to regenerate. Regeneration of anything always comes with extra stuff from the creator. You will never be able to clone an exact replica so there is no fear of abuse.
     
  11. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    My layman's understanding is that it's difficult to clone primates for some technical reasons. So I'm guessing that this 'scientist' is boasting a bit. I would have to see it to believe it.

    It's a possibility somewhere down the line. (My doubts revolve around whether this Chinese scientist currently possesses the ability.)

    I agree with you that it will probably happen at some point.

    I agree that a valuable application of cloning technology might someday be to grow replacement organs like hearts that are perfect transplant tissue matches for particular individuals.

    That makes more practical sense to me than cloning the entire human organism, which would essentially just give somebody a younger identical twin. It still wouldn't be the same person.
     
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  12. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    I am sure the mega rich may want it.

    But me no way, i rather just live once and die, and thats it. You people can keep this world and what you plan to do with it, and they deserve it.

    I have no interest, but i am sure such things will come.
     
  13. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    Why is organ farming of humans unethical?

    The idea here wouldn't be to take organs from prisoners on labor camps, something that's said to happen today in China (and I agree is unethical), but rather to grow new healthy organs from an individual's own body's stem cells in-vitro, so that the new heart (or whatever it is) can serve as an exact tissue-match replacement for a diseased or damaged original.

    There's a great deal of research currently being devoted to that idea, and I think that it's entirely ethical.
     
  14. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, terrific. I suppose North Korea will be their first customer.
     

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