Paranormal encounters

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Magical Realist, Oct 13, 2015.

  1. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    No.

    Yet again you prove yourself to be wrong about something that takes only 2 seconds of Googling to check.

    History comes from the root histōr meaning a learned or wise man.
     
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  3. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    LOL! From your own article:

    "In Middle English, the meaning of history was "story" in general."

    "history: late 14c., "relation of incidents" (true or false), from Old French estoire, estorie "story; chronicle, history""===http://www.etymonline.com/

    story (n.1)
    "connected account or narration of some happening," c. 1200, originally "narrative of important events or celebrated persons of the past," from Old French estorie, estoire "story, chronicle, history," from Late Latin storia, shortened from Latin historia "history, account, tale, story" (see history)."===http://www.etymonline.com/
     
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  5. Bells Staff Member

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    Yes. Story. Not "his" story like you tried to establish. You got your etymology mixed up completely.

    The origin of the word is clear.
     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Bells, that's rather good - the notion that MR needs to get his facts straight, and only then spout rubbish!

    Made me chuckle, anyway.
     
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  8. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for passing on the chuckle. Hadn't read it like that to begin with, but now I can't unsee it.
     
  9. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    "I was a new nurse at our hospital, and only been working there a couple of months.

    I had brought a patient of mine up to day surgery from the ER for an endoscopy and they called back down and asked me to bring her family up because she only spoke Italian (and not enough English) and they needed someone to consent for the procedure.

    After dropping them off, I walked past the waiting room to head back down the hall to the elevators. I took the back way to get to the ER and the hallways are all deserted - it used to be the pediatric wing of the hospital, but that is all shut down for years and the rooms are just empty and full of broken equipment and beds and crap.

    As I reached the old nurses station at the T junction between the pediatric hallway in the hallway that goes to the elevators, I saw a little girl standing across from the nurses station further down the hall. She had big pigtails, was wearing a brown dress, white shoes, holding a teddy bear. I thought perhaps she was a family member who had walked away from the day surgery waiting room. I was concerned that she would go into one of the rooms and get hurt or lost, so I said "hey little girl, what are you doing? You don't need to be over there, you're going to get hurt..." and I walked around the nursing station to go grab her hand and bring her back.

    I shit you not, she VANISHED as I got about 15 feet away from her.

    Every hair on my body stood up straight and I turned and ran like a bat out of hell down to the elevator. I pounded that button for what seemed like an eternity until the elevator got to the floor. As I got back to the ER I walked up to the nurses desk, white as a sheet, and one of the older nurses looked at me and said "Jesus Christ what's wrong with you?"

    I remember babbling like an idiot as I tried to tell them what happened. After listening to me for a moment or two, the nurse said "oh you saw the little girl ghost... she's been around here for years..." and I remember saying "well thanks for telling me about it before this...!"

    Apparently the ghost has even been seen down in the ER, ducking in and out of patient rooms and peeking around curtains. My wife worked up on the 7th floor and she said that one time on nights a whole row of patient rooms started yelling about a little girl that was running around in the rooms.

    I guess she gets around."===https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/comments/2j3pdk/best_nursing_ghost_story/
     
  10. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Not quite. That bears no similarity to this:
    So, yes, the human mind is unreliable, but yes, it is still reliable enough to enhance our survival and get us through life. We all (including you) understand both of these perfectly well, including the fact that they are neither similar nor mutually exclusive.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    How can you expect us to take a story seriously when it doesn't even mention the names of the people or the hospital? I get that you like ghost fiction, but don't expect anyone to believe it without evidence.
     
  12. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Why would they have to mention the names of people or the hospital? Maybe their protecting their anonymity. Would you check into a haunted hospital?
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    There is no such thing. I don't care why there are no names, but it does make it impossible to verify that it even happened.
     
  14. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    "This is my first ghost experience at VCU, and it happened when I was 19. While working the midnight shift security at my university, one of my main duties was to unlock the campus every morning. After doing this everyday for a period of six months, i came into a normal routine with it. I guess I should mention that the bulk of the buildings used by said university, are left from the late 1800s to the early 1900s.

    While entering a certain building from the early 1900s at 0545, I entered on the west side unlocking a handicap door and walked through the main hallway. From the main hallway, I entered through double doors and into the main foyer. In the main foyer, there are two sets of doors I needed to unlock, one on the north side of the building and the other was on the east side, by a stairwell. I did my normal approach, swinging keys and just kinda b-bopping my way through, i noticed a black male on the stairwell. I'm used to seeing individuals inside buildings, mainly housekeeping. I did my normal nod and stated "how are you?" and proceeded to walk towards the north door. When I did not get a response, I asked more firmly since I was slightly offended not to get an answer, "How are YOU?"

    Still I received no answer. I stopped and turned back towards the stairwell, and what I saw I could not believe. I watched the black male, probably in his sixties in what appeared to be an older style suit turn from me and start walking up the stairs. I did not hear an creaking of the wooden boards, and watched as his left hand floated above the stair railing. The black male then came to the landing between floors, looked at me again and turned to go up the rest of the stairs. As he made that turn, he vanished into literally thin air. I wasted no time getting out of there through the north door and proceeded to unlock the rest of the building via the exterior of the building. I called my boss and told her what happened, but she didn't believe me. I talked to the other guards who were somewhat skeptical, but when they tried the stairs, and saw how noisy they were, they started to believe until they all had experiences there themselves."===http://policelink.monster.com/topics/11965-ghost-stories/posts
     
  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    No security cameras in these hospitals I guess.
     
  16. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    You'd just call it photoshopped wouldn't you?
     
  17. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Considering the number of people who die in hospitals, I'm curious as to how only some of them can be "haunted" and others not.

    Maybe that nurse is just as susceptible to woo as you are.
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I might. It's a possibility.
     
  19. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Why do skeptics want so desperately for ghosts not to exist? Why do they devote so much energy trying to debunk every account of paranormal activity only to assure themselves afterwards that it's all bunk? What happens to the world of the skeptic if ghosts exist? Will it end? Will they go crazy? Will they lose their careers and have to go begging on the streets? How sad....and all over a harmless little child's giggle on a deserted hospital floor.
     
  20. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    This is trolling. Reported.
     
  21. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    None of that is true. Your streak stands, congratulations!

    However, the inverse is true:
    Why does the True Believer want so desperately for ghosts to exist? Why do they devote so much energy into trying to flood with useless/baseless/unsubstantiated accounts of paranormal activity only to completely ignore contrary evidence and logic and assure themselves it all must be real? What happens to the world of the True Believer if ghosts do not exist? Will it end? Will they go crazy? (too late, probably). How sad....and all over a harmless little child's giggle on a deserted hospital floor.
     
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  22. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Unfortunately the notion of ghosts, unless the mechanism of their existence is suitably defined, is unscientific and entirely unfalsifiable. I'm sure it's one of the things that attracts such people to believe in them, because it is something that simply can not be falsified. Yes, specific cases can be, and specific (scientific) explanations can be, but there is probably considerably comfort and security in believing in something that has no chance of being falsified. There is thus no risk of disappointment of being wrong. No worry that that which you have invested so much time in could one day be proven incorrect.
    But since it is also unscientific, there is also no way to "prove" their existence in a manner that is sufficiently convincing to science. They therefore shift the burden upon those who don't believe, and remain all warm and snug in their cocoon of fluffy unfalsifiability. And from within they build up a trove of examples of things that, if accurate, can't be readily/easily explained through mundane causes, and look the sheer weight of that collection as the only "proof" they feel they need.
     
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  23. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    So science can't prove ghosts don't exist, and that's the ghost believers' fault? That's amusing. That's like saying because a detective can't prove I killed my wife, I must be guilty. Look, I could care less if ghosts exist or not. Truth be told, I'd rather they didn't. The universe would be a hell of a lot more explainable and understandable without the paranormal. Unfortunately the evidence stands, as well as the thousands of accounts from all over the world. I'd RATHER everything be predictable and well-accounted for. Newton in his heaven and everything in its place. But reality seems unwilling to comply. Shit happens. Stuff we can't explain nor predict nor run thru our little mouse mazes. I'm not even sure ghosts ARE unscientific to be honest. Just because we don't presently know what they are or what causes them doesn't mean we won't or can't. Maybe science isn't up to speed yet on explaining them. Makes sense seeing science is a progressive learning process and certainly has much to learn.
     

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