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Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by MrIntelligentDesign, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    What exactly makes it "instinctive"? What makes failing to breathe, or to drink or to eat, or to mate "instinctive", as opposed to something more obviously intelligent like avoiding a predator about to eat you? "Instinctive" is the same as "intelligence" when you get right down to it. In either case, the lack of action on the part of something intelligent means survival is lost. This is how evolution works. No guiding intelligence is really necessary to make it work that way; it's really a lack of intelligence that is the undoing of those individuals who, for whatever reason, fail to survive. Nature is relentless and ruthless about this, and doesn't care what aspect of cognitive intelligence failed the unfortunate individuals who were not able to anticipate what factor of their environment caused their early demise. Only the ones who succeed in anticipating danger (or opportunities) and act on those "instincts" to survive will make it. Groups of cooperating intelligent animals can also improve their chances of survival by deploying some members of the group as foragers and others as scouts for spotting predators or game. Humans and dogs co-evolved together because one had a keen olfactory system that could be deployed in various ways, and the other could use weapons to bring down larger game, thus allowing them to hunt together more effectively than either could otherwise manage alone.

    Do you see no "pattern" to the deployment of intelligence here?
     
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  3. quantum_wave Contemplating the "as yet" unknown Valued Senior Member

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    You have already stated that your universal intelligence, AI aka God, has always existed, and I have stated instead, that in my view, the universe has always existed, without the added need for a universal intelligence. To be clear, I cannot falsify your claim, but to date I know of no irrefutable evidence of it. Further, I suggest that anything that seems Supernatural, has natural causes that we don't yet understand. Can you take up the challenge to prove your case, or falsify mine? Do so in the next post, because the community isn't interested in either case, given that there haven't been any member comments at all to my posts, and there hasn't been any support for your case either. We are boring, lol, and I am satisfied that neither of us will prove our case.
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    If you start with an unsupported assumption you probably end up with an incorrect conclusion.

    Or even, as in this case, a completely wild conclusion.

    This is nothing but a circular argument. If you start by assuming IA exists then, surprisingly, your conclusion will also end with with IA as a necessity.

    There is NO valid logic that arrives at this conclusion.
     
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  7. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    MrID:

    How do we all know that?

    Is intelligence needed to form a waterfall? How about a cloud?

    Please tell me what evidence you use to determine the age of the Earth and what age you arrive at using your analysis using intelligence. That is, explain how your theory determines the age of the Earth.

    What new discoveries? Please list a few.
     
  8. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    First, I really don't know the age of the earth since I did not even touch this topic since it is beyond my monetary power to make experiment. But intelligence predicts that the age of earth is probably young since intelligence has been used in the origination of existence.

    Second, here are my new discoveries..

     
  9. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    I did not start that assumption. I discovered the real intelligence and intelligence is being used for existence or any X to exist.

    Intelligence can exist X. Failure or non-intelligence cannot.
     
  10. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    You are in error.

    I did not say that the universal intelligence is IA aka God. I said that so that X could exist in the entire existence or cosmos or universe or any X for the topic of origin, intelligence is being used. And this principle of using intelligence is universal, thus, I called it universal intelligence.

    Intelligence too predicts that if we could detect X, then, we can detect intelligence, thus, intelligence also predicts that behind intelligence is IA.
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Really?
    Then you obviously left quite a lot out when you made that post.

    Please show precisely how you came to this "discovery" (I ask because, so far, all you've done is make claims).

    To be perfectly frank your posts are a superb illustration that the final sentence is incorrect.
     
  12. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I agreed that math is the language of science and physics and I said that since reality is a certain phenomenon, then, real science must have real math but with certainty since reality is certain. But you said that there is no certainty in science, thus, your science is either wrong or it is a religion.
     
  13. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    I discovered through a series of questions:

    How any X could exist? What principle/s behind it?

    If I want PC to exist, what should I do? What principle should I use?

    Then, I discovered that real intelligence is being used..

    Any question?
     
  14. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I don't understand why intelligence means the Earth is young. Please explain. Also, what do you mean by "young" here? 6000 years old?
     
  15. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    CORRECT!!!

    Thank you.

    Now, let use simple math for that:

    naturen = instinct = problem/solution (or one problem has one solution. I called it symmetrical phenomenon)

    Thus, intellen is = problem/solution + solution + solution...(or one problem has three solutions. I called it asymmetrical phenomenon)

    NOW, we have already a dividing line between naturen to intellen. I called it the Universal Boundary Line, UBL.

    And we need to find the limit of intelligence..

    That is my discovery, so simple and yet so profound!

    And if you apply that to Biology? You will surely wiggle your head and said, "Oh, Darwin, you've got a mistake!"
     
  16. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Yes - the one I asked just above.

    If I want a cloud to exist, what should I do? What principle should I use? Does it need the real intelligence?
     
  17. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    I answered it in other post to daecon..
     
  18. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    Then, from nothing, if you have intelligence, you can make/design/exist the cloud.

    Do you have that intelligence?
     
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Is there anything that doesn't require the real intelligence?
     
  20. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Shouldn't this be in pseudoscience instead of alternate theories?
     
  21. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    There is, flood. Flood had evolved from water.
     
  22. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Do you not understand what "evolve" means?

    That would explain a lot.
     
  23. MrIntelligentDesign Registered Senior Member

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    Then, tell me, what principle you use so that any X could exist? A car = X, for example.

    PUT UP or SHUT UP.
     

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