Is this man the ultimate feminist?

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  1. tali89

    tali89 Registered Senior Member

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    I had the good fortune of recently reading a story about a male feminist here. Here is an extract:

    So is the man in this case study how the ideal male feminist would behave? In order to eschew male privilege, should men willingly be cucked by their significant other.

    Is this what a real feminist looks like?

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  8. Sarkus

    Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    So what does any of his story have to do with being a feminist???
     
    Sarkus, Sep 22, 2015
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  9. tali89

    tali89 Registered Senior Member

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    Did you read his story? He makes it clear that he is glad he is being cucked because he embraces feminism.
     
    tali89, Sep 22, 2015
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  10. Beer w/Straw

    Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    More seriously (no really).

    Is the movie "People vs Larry Flint" historically accurate? Larry loved his wife, and before he got married, she was OK with him having sex with other woman; I can't remember if she would join in or what not... But that was clearly a sex only thing and had nothing to do for the love he had for his wife. Nothing with being labelled feminist or what not.

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  11. Sarkus

    Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    I read his story - but what does his story actually have to do with being a feminist?
    Sure, he says he is glad of his situation but it has nothing to do with him being a feminist, or embracing feminism, and I can't see why he thinks it is... he is merely accepting that his wife wants an open marriage, and he seems to have convinced himself that what makes her happy also makes him happy.
    But that isn't because he's a feminist, at least as far as I understand the term.
    Where's the equality in what he's doing - which is what feminism is all about? Is being happy for a woman for doing what she wants what you think a feminist is?
     
    Sarkus, Sep 22, 2015
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  12. billvon

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    No. Whether a marriage is open or not (or who someone's wife sleeps with) has nothing to do with him or her being a feminist.

    Now, if he was sleeping around, and she demanded the same freedoms he had - THAT would be a feminist sentiment.
     
    billvon, Sep 22, 2015
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  13. spidergoat

    spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    He's confused. You can be a feminist and still demand an exclusive relationship. Men have just as much a right to their preferences as women. Most women expect that from their partners, but not everyone.
     
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  14. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    tali89:

    Perhaps you should have read past the first few paragraphs of your story which, by the way, can be found here:

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-open-marriage-taught-one-man-about-feminism.html

    Here's what the author writes about the connection to feminism:
    The author goes on to say that he and his wife have agreed to have an open marriage. That means they both sleep around:
    Do you know what feminism is, tali89?

    Feminism is advocacy of the rights of women, in pursuit of the ideal of equality of the sexes.

    This particular couple choose to have an open marriage. That suits them. It wouldn't suit everybody. But they are equal in their relationship.

    Are you upset because you feel like the man has lost control over his woman, tali89? Are you worried that the man has lost his powerful position as dominant partner in the relationship? Are you worried that the woman is not being sufficiently submissive and controllable?

    What do you think about the man's points about feminism, which I have quoted above? Do you have any thoughts on the actual argument, or are you bringing this up for some other reason?
     
    James R, Oct 8, 2015
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    While they have every right to define their marriage as they see fit, I think it's bullshit. In my view, marriage is a commitment to monogamy. She's seeking other men because he's a weak willed boring namby-pamby effeminate man-child who can't keep his woman satisfied. And she didn't know about it because they married too young. They should be honest about it and divorce.
     
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  16. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    spidergoat:

    Your view isn't universally shared, obviously.

    Nobody is forcing you to have an open marriage, or a polygamous one, or a sexless one. That doesn't mean everybody else has to abide by your rules.

    How interesting. How do you know this?

    It seems that she is content to stay in the marriage, so in that sense she must be satisfied about it. Now, if this guy had toed your line and said that he wouldn't stay in a non-monogamous relationship, maybe she would have left him. Or maybe not. You can't know.

    I don't know where you got your inside information on the details of this couple's marriage. Do tell.
     
    James R, Oct 9, 2015
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  17. billvon

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    That's fine. Feel free to live your life that way. Provided you can find a partner who feels the same way, all is well.
    And if he was seeing other women as well? And they were both happy? Great - then that works for them.
     
    billvon, Oct 9, 2015
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  18. spidergoat

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    Then why the sham of a marriage?
     
    spidergoat, Oct 9, 2015
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  19. spidergoat

    spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I'm analyzing it through the lens of my vast experience.
     
    spidergoat, Oct 9, 2015
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  20. billvon

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    It's not a sham as long as both people agree to it.
     
    billvon, Oct 9, 2015
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  21. spidergoat

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    People can agree to all sorts of crazy things.
     
    spidergoat, Oct 9, 2015
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  22. billvon

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    Like getting married!
     
    billvon, Oct 9, 2015
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  23. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    You think that any marriage that doesn't involve sexual exclusivity is necessarily a sham. Why?
     
    James R, Oct 10, 2015
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