Who do you think (if anyone) is the successor of Sigmund Freud ?

And is there anything else to discover in human psychology ?

 

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Jung

 

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The one who presented "Esoteric Nazism" as a science ? I guess we already know that kind of human psychology...

 

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Freud answering to Jung "theories" :

Sigmund Freud: Precisely! Because the world is full of enemies, looking for any way they can to discredit us. And the moment they see us abandon the firm ground of sexual theory to wallow in the black mud of superstition, they will pounce! As far as I’m concerned, even to raise these subjects is professional suicide.

 

Burrhus Frederic Skinner

as/re "is there anything else to discover in human psychology?"
anything?
perhaps, darned near everything

We have but scratched the surface.

There exists a conception-perception-conception-perception spiral that remains little understood.
Can you perceive that which you cannot conceive?
Can you conceive that which you cannot perceive?

 

We seem to have passed beyond the heroic age of psychological speculation, where a single man can create a complete theory of human psychology, spun largely from his own imagination.

That's a good thing in my opinion. I don't give much credence to psychoanalysis.

In the future, I expect that advances will be incremental like in most sciences and will come from areas like neuroscience and even from artificial intelligence.

 

Jung is certainly the most interesting of the psychoanalysts. (I have interests in religious studies and the philosophy of religion.) But just because I find Jung interesting doesn't mean that I believe that everything he says is true. Like Freud, I perceive Jung as a bit of a crank.

 

Yes.

 

An interesting following question would be : Do you think that all animal species in the world do have the same instinctive psychology ?

For example we find many similarities between human behaviours and the ones of wolves or chimps (Gregarious instinct, Alpha-Beta-Gamma hierarchy, Cannibalism...)... One could add that Hitler was the "strongest" alpha in the German speaking countries (+ more or less the Axe's forces) about 100 years ago and see what happened...

What are your thoughts ?

 

Let us also consider the work of Ronald David Laing:

"Schizophrenia cannot be understood without understanding despair."

"Madness need not be all breakdown. It may also be break-through. It is potential liberation and renewal as well as enslavement and existential death."

"We live in a moment of history where change is so speeded up that we begin to see the present only when it is already disappearing."

If memory serves, Gregory Bateson was rather impressed by Laing's ability to successfully treat those suffering from schizophrenia.

 

Ditto!

 

Exactly!

I was going to reply L Ron Hubbard, but you have made the point less flippantly.

 

LOL!

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In 1990 Freud was ranked second most influential to psychology under B.F. Skinner.
2002 Freud was third under Skinner who was followed by Jean Piaget. (Page 15 http://www.cengagebrain.com.mx/content/9781133792277.pdf )

Jung (not on the list) was proclaimed by Freud to be the "crown prince of psychoanalysis". (Google if you want a reference lol )
And then Jung and Freud started to bitch slap each other or some junk and they had hissy fits.

I don't think there is any real successor since the people mentioned as most influential all had different approaches.

 

No. Since all animals have their own evolutionary pathways, they all have the psychological "baggage" that helped them survive to this point. Certainly, we would expect some overlap, especially between similar species in similar environments.

 

LOL!

Sex? That is clearly not a Jungian thingme.

 

There's no "real successor" because there were a lot of people who did the real work after Freud carried the ball onto the field. Columbus gets the credit for "discovering America" but it was a host of "lesser" explorers who actually mapped it out.

 

Larry Flynt.

 

Sounds Freudian ! =D

 

I agree, Columbus a bit like Freud (in a much lesser way though) was some sort of adventurer/conquistador...

What I personally like with Freud is that he created a (incomplete) model of the human mind that one can understand and use effectively. It's more than a map, much like a system that would find real applications in AI for example ;o]