Eyewitness poltergeist accounts

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Magical Realist, Aug 15, 2015.

  1. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    That's fine and dandy - just like Einstein, you will be required to accept the burden of proof.
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Of course it matters. You just asked me to go out and do some investigation. You seem rather hypocritical river, and quite defensive to boot.
    All those links I have given, includes people like Carl Sagan who did do extensive investigations of UFOs and if we had any evidence they were Alien in origin, and all have come to the same conclusion as I'm expressing here.
    It seems we need to add intellectual dishonesty to your other questionable "qualities"such as hypocrisy.
    No that's just you avoiding the issue at hand that the links I have given are from people that have investigated these phenomena and as usual, your anti mainstream/establishment persona that you are burdened with, blinkers you to the real possible facts. I don't need convincing of anything.
    I'm simply asking you for physical evidence of UFOs being of Alien origin. Just one will do.
    I'm simply asking you why is it that those gullible people that also accept UFOs as being of Alien origin, also are more likely to believe in Bigfoot and ghosts and goblins.
    I'm simply asking you why these Alien visitations you believe in, nearly always occur out the back of nowhere, to some isolated impressionable individual, or a bunch of school kiddies, when obviously they are far in advanced of us and would have nothing to fear by announcing their arrival through proper channels.
    I'm simply asking you, why these intellectually superior beings, travel distances measured in many light years, decide to come all that way for a simple jaunt through our atmosphere and/or landings in remote areas, and then decide to return leaving no physical evidence whatsoever of their visitations.
    I'm simply asking you that since these claims are in essence extraordinary as they answer mankind's greatest question, why cannot you or anyone else supply the physical extraordinary evidence for those visitations, as required by the scientific method.
    You are unable to explain or refuse to answer any of those questions river.
    That makes you a fraud.
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Bollocks.
    They asked what evidence HE had.
     
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  7. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    That's interesting because on most all paranormal investigations I've observed they actually measure temp drops with digital thermometers and infrared cameras. But hell, whose gonna believe the people who actually go out into the field to research this stuff?

    If the poltergeist is using some form of energy or force science hasn't discovered yet much less admits could exist, I can see how that would be magic to them.

    The movements, such as the stacking of books, or the arrangement of pots and pans on the floor, or the knocking down of family pictures, or the knocking on doors, or the footsteps, or the voices, ALL demonstrate conscious intent such as an intelligent entity would exhibit. That's why we say it is a ghost. Because the activity shows intent and purpose and even malice.

    We don't know if poltergeists are wasting heat or not. Maybe they are. So the mechanism is entirely plausible in terms of the laws of physics.
     
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  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    There is not even any certainty that a poltergeist is a fully intelligent conscious entity. It may be some proto-telic demiurge or telluric automaton that feeds off emf/psychic energy and perceives very little of what it is doing. There ARE cases of writing on walls and voices responding to the actions of the victims though. But as with voices in the head, I know there are energy feedback loops of mental energy that can mimick intent and emotion in the pursuit of inducing more energy. Think of a barely sentient energy form driven only by its hunger for more energy. Then it would evolve according to the algorithms of the family dynamic and their emotional reactions to its activity. It would be more of a non-conscious game, like chess, that evolved to appear to have personality and volition but was in fact only acting from it's own interactively programmed mnemonic structure.
     
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  9. Oystein Registered Senior Member

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    This life is nothing short of an unveiling paradigm shift of astral flow. Consciousness consists of chaos-driven reactions of quantum energy. “Quantum” means an evolving of the sublime. The world is full of electrical impulses.
     
  10. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    You should probably check the validity of that statement. It comes across as a little pseudoscientific.
     
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  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    So what, praytell, is a "scientific sentiment"?
     
  12. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    I meant statement. Autocorrect error.
     

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