Bizarre sky phenomena

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  1. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Eyewitness accounts can be faked.

    You already know this, no matter how many times you try to pretend otherwise.
     
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  3. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Not fallacious argument, fallacious belief; gullibility.
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Not anywhere near convincing evidence for many reasons you already know yet continue to ignore.
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
    UFOs are real and a 100% certainty. [emphasis on the U= Unidentified:]
    Everything else is speculative and plain old hear say.
     
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  7. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Doctors can be quacks too.But I still go to the doctor when I'm sick.
     
  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Belief based on evidence and eyewitness testimony isn't fallacious OR gullible.
     
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  9. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    You don't though go to the quack doctors, do you?
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    It is most certainly if you immediately invoke alien intelligence, when it remains Unidentified.
     
  13. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No..when the craft is obviously nothing humans have and beyond our technology, we can reasonably posit an alien intelligence behind it. It's the next most logical alternative given what we know about the probability of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    How would you know it is a craft?
    How would you know its beyond our technology?
    It's far more reasonable to posit UFO.
    It's far more reasonable to accept it is unknown.
    It is far more reasonable to posit possibly weather balloons, secret stealth aircraft or similar.
    It is far more reasonable to posit a "trick" by someone as many of UFO sightings have been proven to be.
    It is also reasonable to ascertain that any individual that straight away shouts alien, or Bigfoot, or ghost, or anything other than "I don't know" as highly susceptible and gullible in the extreme.
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said, a 100% UFO but most likely if one needs to speculate, some trick by someone or other.
     
  16. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    It is when that evidence is bad. That's what "gullible" means! And that's your deal: you make no effort to judge the quality of the evidence you will accept. You'll accept basically anything, no matter how stupid. That's "gullible" (or trolling, of course).
     
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  17. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No..the phenomenon is far too widespread and patterned to be tricks or weather balloons. We know the characteristics of these things from all the sightings we have of them. That's why we can say they are alien craft. The speeds they travel. Their typical silent running. Their ability to defy the laws of physics as we know them. Mankind has nothing like this, not even as a hoax.
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Who is we? More silly gullible so called UFO investigators?

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    No you certainly are unable to say they are alien craft for many reasons.
    That's just more typical gullible fabricated bullshit.
    Like I said, certainly a UFO, and most probably an elaborate trick/ruse by some practical joker.
    No evidence what so ever to claim it to be of alien origin.
     
  19. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Then tell me how these 62 kids were tricked by some elaborate hoax. How was it pulled off? Who did it? Why would they do such a thing? Your "answer" creates more mysteries and questions than just the simple acknowledgement of an alien visitation. It answers nothing, and merely obfuscates in its own resignation to being ignorant. It isn't an explanation at all. It is a pathetic excuse to not think about and research the phenomenon itself. Which is the exact opposite of the scientific spirit. It's defensive, dogmatic, and frankly intellectually dishonest.
     
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  20. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Methinks the troll doth protest too much. Guess the evidence is more compelling than I thought!
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    They're kids, young, impressionable and scared.
    Don't know.
    Don't know.
    Don't know. For plain old fun perhaps?
    I havn't got an answer. It was a genuine UFO. I gave a suggestion. You appear the one with all the answers.
    The only ignorant person in this thread is the one claiming that a UFO is of alien origin, based on the word of some impressionable children.
    Yes it is. It's a UFO unknown and unidentified.
    No, it is simply the logical conclusion a person would draw based on only hear say evidence of a bunch of impressionable kids.
    And of course it has been investigated.
    No the scientific spirit and the scientific method is based on hard evidence.....observational and experimental, that can be falsified by others if need be at any date.
    Well going on past records, your posts are highlighted many times, with defensive, dogmatic fabricated scenarios to support your gullibility of accepting the weird and wacky in place of real science.
    And this continuation of your dogmatic, unscientific and defensive diatribe, supports the fact that you are the intellectually dishonest claimant here just as you have been in other threads you start specifically for that purpose. eg: Your stupid claim that science has never benefited mankind.
    Your record speaks for itself in that regard.
     
  22. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Magic - it is a ufo for a reason. If it were an alien craft, it would be a bogey.
     
  23. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    There is no reproducible "phenomenon". That's the problem. All we have is anecdote after anecdote, with no objective evidence that can be checked by other parties after the event and nothing to enable us to set up a controlled observation for further occurrences. There are countless theories that reply on this sort of flaky non-evidence, from the Bermuda Triangle to the alleged murder of the Princess of Wales. Some people like to believe in them for various reasons related to their own psychological comfort. But the absence of reproducible, objective observations renders them unscientific.
     
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