Famous Bigfoot encounters

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  1. Bells Staff Member

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    What he describes is not what you have been plugging as being bigfoot on this site. At all. I don't even think your OP classifies as a bigfoot encounter. Because your continued argument on this site has been that bigfoot is real, that it is human (remember the Ketchum study that classified them as human beings that you avidly supported). Beck declares they are not humans or even physical beings (ie real things that Ketchum and other bigfoot researchers deem to be real physical and material beings), but that are spirits. Which completely contradicts everything you have ever argued about when it comes to bigfoot.

    So which is it to be, MR? Is bigfoot a spirit or spiritual being that manifests itself to those who are clairvoyant? Or are they real physical beings as determined by Ketchum and co?

    Bear in mind that if you agree with Beck, you are completely invalidating Ketchum and her co-horts who declared they found physical evidence of bigfoot (like hair samples, etc). So which is it to be? If you think what Beck says is the truth and is real, then it means that there can be no bigfoot samples (he even says this in his question and answers, because he declared that bigfoot cannot exist in this realm, and thus, everything connected to it, from hair to poo samples, disappear to the spiritual realm along with them). It means that all of your threads or arguments about bigfoot is completely invalidated and false, because they so fundamentally contradict what Beck has said happened to him. If you think Beck's account stands, then it means that bigfoot is a spirit and it means that Ketchum and all the other bigfoot aficionados who claim they have found samples and physical evidence of bigfoot's existence is null and void.

    So you need to decide what you wish to argue for here. That bigfoot is a spirit if Beck's account stands. Or if you believe bigfoot is a physical being as Ketchum and other bigfoot researchers have determined.
     
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  3. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Beck thinks they come from other dimensions but they are real and material when they manifest. That's what everyone else believes. That they are real material beings. Most believe they are physical beings that live in this dimension only. What their nature is and what they are has yet to be discovered. But that they exist is unquestionable. And Frank Beck's account confirms this as do the other 6 or 7 accounts I have posted here.

    They're probably real physical beings, just as Frank said they were when they attacked him in his cabin. What they are remains to be seen.

    I stick to the account Beck gave of a real physical being that left real physical evidence and had real physical effects and was seen by all the miners. Just as I stick to all these other accounts. He is physical and real. You have tried to twist Beck's belief that they are spirit beings into him saying they weren't real. That's a lie. He never said they weren't real, and he never said they never left evidence. He even showed the footprints to the newspaper reporters. His account in no way conflicts with any of the other accounts we have of this creature.

    Bigfoot is a real physical being as defined as a being who has real physical effects on the world. That's what all the evidence points to. And that's what Frank Beck experienced that night. His account stands.
     
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    Mod Note - edited to attribute quote to correct member

    Bigfoot to any reasonably thinking logical human being, is no more than a figment of people's imaginations, part myth, part imagination, part fraud.
    The scientific evidence [or lack of it] overwhelmingly supports that view.
     
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  7. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Um... I didn't say that?

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  8. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Fixed the quote

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  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    By that definition Voldemort is a real physical being who has real physical effects on the world. Millions have seen him, made money off him, supported him, created clothing for him, shot video of him etc etc.
     
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    Apologies Daecon....Too much haste.....Thanks also to Kittamaru.
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  11. Bells Staff Member

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    Dude, he said they are spirits and he is dubious about any evidence people claim they leave behind because he says that as spirits, they don't leave anything behind at all.

    Your sticking to Beck's account completely invalidates all over bigfoot stories and studies you have relied on as proof that bigfoot exists, let alone is human. Beck's account is in direct contradiction to all the people who are looking for evidence of bigfoot, including Ketchum's study. Beck clearly says that as spirits, they cannot leave physical evidence and even the one he shot disappeared and left no trace (including blood, fur or body that he claims was there) because they are spirits and they simply disappeared back to the spiritual realm.

    As I said, if you say Beck's account stands, then it is a direct contradiction to all the other bigfoot stories you have posted and relied on. Because Beck repeatedly states that it is a spirit that manifests itself in the guise of an apeman and not a real or physical being.
     
  12. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    And to think I thought this thread could not get any sillier.

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  13. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Oh but the rabbit hole goes deep. Just depends on how deep you wanna go:

    "Bigfoot hunter Matthew "Dr. J" Johnson claims to know why it's been impossible to find hard evidence that would prove that the mysterious Sasquatch is indeed real.

    While speaking at the Bigfoot Habituation Research Conference, which was held last week at the Baymont Inn and Suites in Bremerton, Washington, the 53-year-old psychologist stated that Sasquatch is an interdimensional beast that travels through night portals and possesses cloaking capability. As a result, it has managed to outsmart and hide evidence of its existence from humans for years, reports the Bremerton Patriot.

    According to Johnson, the apelike creature actually lives in another dimension, and travels through portals that can only be seen at night. He added that the portals disappear in any type of light. They are also guarded by furry creatures with glowing eyes which scare off humans who try to get too close.

    "Portals are real, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not making this crap up," said Johnson, who helped organize the conference.

    He also revealed that Bigfoot spoke to him one night in a dream.

    "The adolescent male (Bigfoot) says 'It's OK, that's just a portal and those are two guardians who are making sure you guys don't go into the portal, so they're scaring you away,'" Dr. J said.

    Johnson went on to explain other observances and personal encounters that he has had with the elusive beast. However, he was just one of the dozens of speakers who spoke at the conference before a group of 100 attendees.

    Also at the event, was famous filmmaker Bob Gimlin, who helped create the 1967 Patterson-Gimlin Film that allegedly captures Bigfoot walking in Bluff Creek, California."===http://www.latinpost.com/articles/51114/...-video.htm
     
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  14. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    The source of that particular idiom is Alice In Wonderland, which is very apropos.
     
  15. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    magic portals that vanish in the light, furry Guardians, and interdimensional travel... either thus is the plot of a bad furry-style anime porno, someone has done some serious mind altering drugs, or we are at the point where these people are just trolling to see how absurd they can make it and still have gullible folks believe them...
     
  16. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Well we know it's working on at least one person.
     
  17. river

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    And if they are not trolling but are conveying real experiences then who are you to judge?
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The only thing MR is conveying is his paranoid focus on his right to post any nonsense he wishes...As long as he does that in the proper sections, and as long as he is prepared for the inevitable derision from those members who are here for science instead of fairy tales, he can continue highlighting himself in that gullible vane for as long as he likes.
     
  19. river

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    How do you KNOW this !

    But more importantly how can you dismiss bigfoot experiences , out right?
     
  20. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Have you even read this thread or are you just trolling again?
     
  21. river

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    I have read some but not all.
     
  22. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    And yet you jump right onto the bandwagon without a second thought.

    Take some time to read through Magical Realist's various bigfoot etc. threads and you'll see why being gullible is a bad thing.
     
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  23. river

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    Perhaps

    But my knowledge and therefore perspective on BigFoot is not based on this thread , at all.
     
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