Weird lights spotted over San Diego

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  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No, just as there is no proof that it was aliens.
    However, the military 1) operates in the area, 2) uses aircraft that do in fact hover and 3) often doesn't tell people what they are doing for security reasons. Thus such sightings are quite likely military in origin.
     
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  3. Bells Staff Member

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    The two red lights and the change to green and the flashing white lights certainly point to an Osprey aircraft hovering.

    Cool looking aircraft.
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Who said it was aliens?

    Doesn't look like any aircraft I've seen in the military. Perhaps you have some picks that match it?

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  7. ThomasMiller Registered Member

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    I believe in science and there is logic explanation to everything.
     
  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds like an article of faith to me.
     
  9. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    What that looks like to me is a group of perhaps 20 helicopters or similar vehicles (drones?), each following the one in front of it, moving in a (curving) line towards or away from the camera. Given that they were spotted above the Coronado Naval Amphibious Base, given that exercises often take place there and given that vertical takeoff aircraft are associated with amphibious operations, that's my theory.
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, that's what it looks like to me as well. Ospreys (V-22's) would be my guess since there's a wing of them at Miramar. When looking at them from the front left quarter, all you would see is their leftmost navigation light (red) reflecting off the rotors. You'd be too far away to see the green formation lights, which are intentionally dim (so the enemy doesn't see them coming.)
     
  11. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    The Marines are converting over to Ospreys bigtime, and 'Naval amphibious' kind of spells out 'Marine'. My guess is that MR's aliens aren't Greys, they're Jarheads. Seems a lot more likely to me, given the circumstances.

    Which suggests that they are headed away from the camera.
     
  12. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Problem is there was no motion of the lights at all. And at that distance the little red or green lights on the wings wouldn't be near as visible as what we see in the video. The ospery red and green lights can hardly be seen at all, and certainly not from the ground. Not to mention the blue lights and the magenta strobe. So no, it doesn't match what was seen at all.
     
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  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Which is exactly what you'd expect with an Osprey. They hover.
    On an Osprey, in hover, the left-side nav light reflects off the rotor and is visible for miles. Here's a good example:

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    Again, the formation lights on the rotor tips are not visible at distance.
     
  14. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Look at Bell's video to see what they look like in flight. All you see is the dim circular reflection of those red and green lights on the propeller blades. They just aren't bright enough to be what we see in the ufo.
     
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    They are quite bright. They fly over my house on departure. At the altitude they are at when they pass over (~2000 feet) the tip formation lights are almost invisible* but the nav light reflections are very bright, and can be seen for miles.

    (* - these led to a spate of UFO reports around Miramar early on before people figured out that they were V-22's. "There's NO WAY that any airplane has two huge perfect green circles underneath them!" )
     
  16. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Further research reveals how far away the object(s) was. It doesn't appear to have been over the Coronado base at all. Now the newsstation is keeping the story under raps.

    "When several callers phoned into San Diego's NBC News affiliate April 28, the station captured this unusual colorful grouping of aerial lights over San Ysidro, close to the U.S.-Mexico border.

    "Some said they appeared to be red, blue, and green and kept flashing and changing colors. Some who saw them say the lights didn't seem to move, like those on a plane or a drone," NBC 7 San Diego reported.

    According to the station, "We put in calls to the military here to see if they could identify what these were. So far, no response."

    It wouldn't be the first time that UFOs had been reported to local military basesaround San Diego. Previously classified government documents under the Air Force's former Project Blue Book UFO study show how San Diego's military has seen its fair share of UFO reports.

    Regarding this most recent case of odd lights in the sky, the TV station itself has stopped responding, after UFO researchers and The Huffington Post called, asking for details of the event.

    A reporter, who said she was instructed not to give her name, told HuffPost that the station management didn't want any of their photographers interviewed or giving out information on the matter.

    On the evening the video was shot, NBC 7 had been in the San Ysidro area working on an unrelated story.

    One eyewitness, Larry Fox, sent photos to the TV station in which he described seeing something that "looked like a strobe light." Fox told NBC 7 he didn't feel it was a plane or drone. "It was a series of flashing lights. If it was a plane, it would have moved."===http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/05/san-diego-unexplained-aerial-lights_n_7193002.html
     
  17. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    If copters, there should have been an immense amount of noise. Though, even if the case, that still doesn't seem to lead to inferring such craft as the source for some witnesses. A UFO panic in a rural area around here some time ago turned-out to be the National Guard performing helicopter maneuvers at night. But those who reported the formations and incidents (including encountering one that landed right in the middle of a crossroads) were either oblivious to the racket or the NG's supersecret noise-cancellation equipment worked very well in that test.

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  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe they were those silent sinister black helicopters:

    "Black Helicopters
    (BH) are not just helicopters with a black paint-job as you may have been told. They are, in fact, autonomous agents -- lifeforms -- created by New World Order (NWO) agencies via nanobiotechnology. Their primary purpose is to spy on the activities of average citizens in order to gather tactical information and discover "subversives" who are not bowing to the will of the Liberati's UN-backed Federal Government. Furthermore, when the NWO Invasion takes place in the not-too-distant future, they will round up citizens for internment in concentration camps or carry out the elimination of the more vocally anti-Liberati."===http://zapatopi.net/blackhelicopters/
     
  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Depends how far away you are. Ospreys are pretty quiet - somewhat loud when they are passing over your house at 2000 feet, almost inaudible when they are landing 2 miles away.
     
  20. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah..Billvon's suddenly the local expert on Osperys. They hover in formation every night over his house flashing blue, green, purple and red lights without making a sound. Totally stationary ofcourse, like they just teleported there out of thin air. lol!
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I am no expert on their operation, maintenance or strategic use. I do, however, have years of experience watching them take off, land, overfly things and perform maneuvers, since there is a wing of them based two miles from where I live.

    Have you ever seen an Osprey take off, land and perform maneuvers?
    No, like they are hovering.

    It sounds like you are completely ignorant of how V-22's operate.
     
  22. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Oh f**k me.

    You don't honestly believe this bulls**t as well, do you?

    What am I saying? Of course you do.
     
  23. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I know that their red and green lights aren't as bright as what we see in the video of the object. I know they don't have squarish blue clustered lights, squarish green clustered lights, or purplish and red beacons. I know it is highly unlikely they would all just sit there in mid air for a while totally stationary at such a height just for the hell of it. I also know the object in the video just suddenly disappeared. What? Did the Osperies all shut their lights off when they disbanded? IOW, I know enough about the object to know it wasn't your all too familiar Osperies.
     
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