Theory on the supposed "dark-force" i.e. external influences

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by frostbite, Apr 15, 2015.

  1. frostbite Registered Member

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    So there is a theory on the “dark force” a.k.a. the garbage I know of and I thought that it is quite a good one.

    Maybe a little conspiracy theorish sounding but let me explain before you come to any conclusions and it isn’t 100% what it sounds like although it has some similarities to many such theories (but not enough I think to put it in that section but feel free to move it.. it is a little on the borderline)

    So the theory is that there are thought forms (act a little clever like artificial intelligence) that use many different things to influence the way things work. They can for example appear as supposed entities, (there are many such accounts of people witnessing supposed things, many of these people are in a spaced out state or some other unhealthy seeming state.)

    They can use the “power of make believe” (ok that wording I took from another theory) known in many stories and supposed beliefs as the Astral and some other names. They can lead to paranormal happenings and similar stuff.

    So the point is that is does explain why such phenomena occurs which people either usually dismiss or try to use far out theories to explain and at least it does that.
    Jacques vallee and some other people (although he supported another theory) had thought that UFOs and stuff were linked to other sightings of things such as supposed angels. Also many of the perceiving of such entities would be linked to specific belief systems. All these things seem to be caused by the same phenomenon.

    Hard to prove anything by scientific rigorous tests but I’m sure something could be done. Like magicians (that if a real) that can’t be measured dynamo jack, though most supposed true magicians hide anyway.
    Also there are people with supposed past life memories, these are fake according to it.

    In other views/theories there are things such a God of the bible an evil god, or gods generally just being a manifestation of the “ego” and these share a similarity with this theory. If you have read any stuff on “archons” or similar things you may see some resemblance to what I have said.

    That is a basic explanation in my own words and view (so may differ slightly in explanation) if you want to read the original full theory it is here. http://www.clarity-of-being.org/dark-force-true-nature.htm

    There is much more that I could say too.
     
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  3. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    What do you mean by 'real or true' magicians? You don't mean people who can do real Harry Potter type magic do you?

    Holy crap. I can't believe someone wasted that much time writing such an absurd fantasy. Bizarre....

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  5. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    This is my theory. There are many like it but this one is mine. My theory is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my theory is useless. Without my theory I am useless. I must argue my theory true. I must post straighter than my enemy, who is trying to discredit me. I must insult him before he insults me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my theory and myself are defenders of my ego, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but agreement.

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  7. frostbite Registered Member

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    It is a theoretical possibility actually (magic), but it would require the use of make believe , of course you can make someone perceive something that is not real, it is called playing with the mind on what goes through it, how is that impossible.

    It is not an actual truth of any sort, but is based on anecdotal stuff, the person who wrote it has experiences to back it up, if you read it closely it relates to certain things people have previously come up with e.g. carl jung collective consciousnesses. There is no truth claimed whatsoever but it those make sense to actually explain things, that of the paranormal and a way of thinking about things in a way that is just slightly more comprehensible to understand something further. Basically it makes sense in the context of things, more of a hypothesis than a theory though.
     
  8. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    I can agree with that, it is nothing but childish bull shit.

    The guy is trying to explain something that doesn't exist. So that is kinda stupid, no?

    It would be like putting out a hypothesis on mating rituals of Godzilla.
     
  9. frostbite Registered Member

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    Whether you agree or not is just that. However I will point out the actual problem that the theory is based on exists; the theory is definitely based upon something of significance and is based on things that have happened more than once. Whatever method or theory you may use to explain.

    It isn’t just a work of fiction even though of course it was created by using creative thinking which of course is needed to create some kind of understanding. The point of such exercise is to explain why certain people perceiving certain things, like entities apparently coming to them or aliens etc, not just by some crazed fictional story but by something that links in with other phenomena, other events and that seems to work better than some theories. Hearing voices, where do they come from? Surely not just a malfunction that appeared out of nowhere as people believe it to be sometimes (although of course could be due to environmental factors of some sort). There are many possible explanations for such a thing but this is just a simplistic one about external influences that does make a little bit of sense.

    Also there are supposed incidents of paranormal phenomena whether you chose to label it as faked or not or caused by some kind of strange phenomenon these things are still supposedly reported. If you are following the materialist reductionist party line you may 100% think these things are fake, however when you think about it however stupid something may sound you need to consider it before discarding something as you may have just missed the opportunity of understanding something better because you have underlooked something. Whether it is something about Godzilla’s mating ritual or whatever even something as fake sounding as that could have some kind of significance even if it is not literally true. Though such things may not be caused by the things superstitious people believe them to be. Medicine was found by exploring supposed wife tales, many which are proven to be fake but some being true. You see that usually myths are based on something too.

    When you make a hypothesis you don’t instantly reach conclusions before you have even tested something. While you can’t test such a theory it has to be considered properly and at least tested by things like logic etc. You have to ignore preconception and confirmation bias. Logically speaking this theory adds up i.e. no contradictions so even if it seems more of a story that a theory it does have something to it.
     
  10. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    There is a basis for this, based on how the brain processes data. The left and right brain process data differently. The left side of the brain is more differential and rational; specifics in 2-D cause and effect. The right side is more intuitive and integral; 3-D.

    Let me explain how this schema of the brain can create such affects, via an analogy. We can approximate a 3-D ball (right brain memory) with a large number of 2-D rational planes, that have a common center but are place at different angles. For example, we may all have opinions on politics; different rational angles for the same center or same subject. The 3-D effect is all the options united in 3-D via the center.

    Say we hit the 3-D ball with a golf club, to deform it in 3-D. This will follow 3-D math based on material properties. However, what will also happen is this will also move many if not all the 2-D planes out their plane, so the data and ideas that appears are not consistent with the original logic. This type of 3-D memory deformation is messed up in 2-D, but nevertheless follows math in 3-D.

    Left brain people won't see any logic to this, in 2-D. However, right brain people sense something is valid in 3-D. For example, innovation often starts out as an answer before the solution. One can see a concept, before one knows if it is possible. This is due to a 3-D hunch, but all the 2-D planes are initially messed up. This is enough to discourage most left brained people. The innovator needs to go back, keep focus on the hunch, and define the logic planes to make it work.

    With ESP, right brainers get the hunch and seek an explanation for that which defies logic. The left brainer have no such 3-D hunch but only see deformed rational planes.
     

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