Netanyahu sux

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  1. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    Where do you think 'they' got the idea to concoct such a character?--By learning/hearing of the exploits of Samson.
     
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  3. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    There were no tales of Samson dating back to 600BC and earlier to be found anywhere in Greece. Stop making crap up, you're already lost deep enough in your racist fantasies as is. On the other hand, we do know that much of the Bible was ripped off from the Sumerians.
     
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  5. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    actually the legend of heracles is far older.
     
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  7. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    Notice my rendering of " 'they' ".
     
  8. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    i noticed. your implication is still false. your claiming the older of the 2 is a rehash of the younger which is chronologically impossible.
     
  9. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    You "noticed"? To what degree? Of that you have no idea. You think you noticed something. My implication is factually correct. Your assumption as to what is implied by my reply is incorrect, which,--inevitably--leads you to a false conclusion. This is true on so many levels with respect to what goes on here in these fora.
     
  10. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    So... you are claiming the biblical records of Samson are older than the records of Herakles?

    The Book of Judges, was first committed to writing around 550BC, during the Babylonian Exile - Samson was believed to have been one of the last of the judges to rule the tribes of Israel - the first Jewish king, Saul, having reigned from 1047 to 1007 BC. Assuming this to be accurate, it seems safe to reason that Samson would have lived sometime between 1400 and 1100 BC, most likely the later stretch of that period.

    Herakles was stated to have lived somewhere during the Grecian Bronze Age, which was between 1600BC and 1100BC. Cult worship of his legends state he ruled over the citystate of Argos, and this claims his death to be around 1226 BC.

    Thus, not only does it seem Herakles was around BEFORE Samson, but the writing of Samson and Delilah would have been several centuries to nearly a millennium later.

    EDIT - Please note, this is my compilation from several dozen different sources, including:

    http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/
    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/307473/Book-of-Judges
    http://www.ancientgreece.com/s/Neolithic/

    as well as some initial links that pointed to these references from Wikipedia and google searching
     
  11. Photizo Ambassador/Envoy Valued Senior Member

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    No...but... nice job with your research. Have a good day.
     
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  13. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    I am curious then what your claim actually is
     
  14. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Your faith-based claim about Hercules/Herakles has been thoroughly debunked. Now you need to justify that your other religious points, particularly the ones justifying bigotry and warfare, weren't also concocted with you and your cult leaders' heads just as far up your asses.
     
  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    factually correct? so claiming a point later in time influenced one that came before it is not factual correct. its factual incorrect. unless you believe the ancient Israelites were in fact Gallifreyans? there no assumption you flat out said that the legend of sampson influenced the legend of heracles. as has been pointed out the greek myth predates the Israelite one so you were in make a unfactual comment.
     
  16. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    really?
    thats you claiming the greeks heracles was created because of sampson. so you got caught make a non factual claim and than lied about it 7 posts later. its literally on the same page. I mean really i admire your audacity but seriously WTF? if your going to lie about what you claimed at least wait until the lie will be on a different page.
     
  17. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    By Photizo's own logic, the Hebrews ripped the Greeks off and created a fictional character named Samson based on the exploits of Hercules. So it's time for him to pack up, Hercules already promised me his land.
     
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  18. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    first time a comment online made look for cameras in my room cause i'm thinking i must be getting punked. the level of absurdity is mind boggling.
     
  19. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    And he was making so much more sense when he was just talking about perfect beneficent deities having nervous breakdowns, wiping out their entire creations and stuffing 2 of every species on the planet inside a wooden ark crewed by a couple dozen people for half a year.
     
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  22. Light Travelling It's a girl O lord in a flatbed Ford Registered Senior Member

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    This is the goal of Israel, maybe not genocide, but certainly the forcing out of all Palestinians. And genocide would not be ruled out - they want the land and country for themselves and no other.

    That is the problem and they won't stop as long as they think America has their back.
     
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  23. Light Travelling It's a girl O lord in a flatbed Ford Registered Senior Member

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    I agree, many countries have faced problems with both internal and external terrorist activities. Can you imagine the international outcry if they attacked a civilian population in revenge the way the Israel has.

    Take the IRA and United Kingdom for example. Can you imagine if the UK had bombed civilian areas in the same way because the IRA bombed soldiers and civilians. And remember there was much American support for the IRA in that case.
     

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