how do i deal with domestic abuse

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by theorist-constant12345, Mar 2, 2015.

  1. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    You can not do this in the Uk, the women always wins no matter what.
     
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  3. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    I am more interested in the science of it than the actual event.

    Why is there aggression?
     
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  5. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, okay then.

    You seem to have already made up your mind.

    I guess there's nothing more to say and we can close the thread? Right? Right?

    GET OUT.

    TELL THE POLICE.
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    4000 women lost in the UK between 2008-2009, so that's not true.
     
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  8. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    the police always defend the women, the courts with children always protect the mother
     
  9. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Really? [citation needed]
     
  10. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    I must stress that my children are asleep, I would never disturb their sleep., she also went bed.

    Science is prevention, so yes with all the lumps on my head I still remain dedicated to try to find the science involved.



    Is anger just social programming?
     
  11. Bells Staff Member

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    The UK has some of the best systems in dealing with male victims of domestic violence. They have shelters for male victims and their children.

    Call for help.

    Your wife has harmed you and abused you. Your children are in the house and you are injured.

    This can come later.

    Call for help.
     
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  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Would you be OK with her hitting them next?
    Science has zero to do with this. You are in a house with your children and a violent abuser. Your choice is simple; choose.
     
  13. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Experience from observations of people I know, One father resorted in attempted suicide, my brother not seen his kids in about 8 month and did relative nothing.

    Men are not so generally vindictive, so why are women so vindictive and gain by ease orders that express no access to men to their own children?
     
  14. Bells Staff Member

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    You don't need to disturb their sleep.

    Call for help.

    Call a family member or friend and have them come over, make sure you are okay.

    You may also be concussed and/or bleeding internally into your brain. If there are lumps on your head and you are injured, you need to get yourself to a hospital or call a doctor.

    There is no exact science behind why people abuse. It could be what they have experienced while growing up or they have observed a parent abusing the other parent while growing up. It could be a range of psychological reasons.
     
  15. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    She is asleep, I am not in a life threatening position, a concerning lump on my temple from a punch with a ring, but no bad head or concussion.

    Eyes about the right dilation.

    I was just curious about the human science involved, I could never hate the mother of my children, but also women get better right in court.
     
  16. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    So how long are you going to wait before you get off your ass and do something to prevent the abuse?

    Or are you just going to wait until she starts hitting your kids, and THEN bother doing absolutely anything to help them?

    You know what, forget it. I'm ignoring this thread before I say something that'll get me an infraction.

    I've lived through shit like that, and your kids wont respect you for not doing anything.
     
  17. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Its hard in the UK, men have little to no rights over their own kids.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Where do you think the concerning lumps on your kids will be?
     
  19. Bells Staff Member

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    How do you know?

    Sometimes even a small knock to the head is enough to cause serious brain injury and if it is on or near your temple and it was hard enough to result in a lump, then you need to have it seen to, sooner rather than later.

    Are you a doctor?

    That is not the case.

    And yet you have been provided with several phone numbers and help lines and websites that tell you otherwise.

    It seems to me as though you do not want to call anyone for help. Perhaps you feel embarrassed or ashamed, and your attempts to tell us that you are strong and skilled enough and capable of 'kicking her head in' but chose not to kind of points to feeling embarrassed and ashamed because your wife beat you.. These are normal feelings and they happen in all victims of domestic violence at one point or another, regardless of the sex of the victim or perpetrator.

    There is nothing to be ashamed of.

    However, what is terrible is hiding behind this excuse that you are currently hiding behind. Your children deserve better. Most importantly, your children deserve to grow up in a safe environment that is violence free and you can provide that by reporting her. So far, your refusal to seek help is not keeping your children safe. It is keeping them in a dangerous and abusive environment.

    You do have rights. Exercise them for yourself and for your children.

    Perhaps you should start exercising them instead of hiding behind your belief that you do not have them.

    If you wish to really protect your children, then report her to the police, get some counselling for yourself, your children and your wife.

    While you may think your children are asleep and do not know, they do know. Children brought up in abusive households where one parent abuses the other always know. They will know it from the bruises and the bumps on your head, to knowing and understanding the feelings of tension and general unhappiness between their parents. And those children often grow up to abuse themselves because they believe this behaviour is normal and/or acceptable. Psychological damage to children who grow up in households such as yours can be pretty bad for children and they will carry those scars into adulthood.

    She may be the mother of your children, but she is also a danger to you and therefore, to them also.
     
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  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Well it's your own fault. You don't want to do anything about it. How about videotaping it next time?
     
  21. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Why did you ask for help if you don't want help?
    That's not what your first post says. Or did you just make it up?
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Neither of these things is true.
     
  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Before people here start jumping to conclusions, bear in mind that we've only had theorist-constant's side of the story. We don't know whether he is being regularly abused by his wife or whether this was a one-off argument that got out of hand. We don't know the history. We don't know the details of what led to this.

    While I do not endorse anybody physically hurting anybody else, I also appreciate that relationships can be very complex, and it's far too easy for outsiders to make snap judgments when they've only heard one party's side of the story.

    If theorist-constant is truly a wronged innocent party in this, then I join the chorus urging him to seek outside help to deal with the matter and avoid any further violent confrontations. But it seems to me that he is reticent to contact outsiders about this. There could be any number of reasons for that, and none of us know what they are.
     

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