House Republicans decide the Department of Homeland Security isn't important

http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-prepare-pass-homeland-security-funding-080933043--politics.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/27/house-rejects-homeland-security-funding/
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/republicans-prepare-pass-homeland-security-funding-29265855

Yay 'Murica!

 

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About time, for God's sakes. If this were real there'd be dancing in the streets instead of cowering fools wondering how we'll deal with the lack of security.

Edit: the same security we had before it cost so much, that is...

 

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It's more tha a bit ironic that the party which likes to sell the notion it is strong on security is shutting down the nation's domestic security apparatus in order to advance their political agenda. It's yet another instance in which Republicans have put party above the nation.

 

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They don't understand that they put a Gestapo in place either. God help us.

 

It was a Republican that wanted the TSA to begin. That was Pres. Bush and Congress went along with his suggestion. The Senate was evenly split with 50/50 and the House had a Republican majority in it. So in they both supported the formation of the TSA.

 

If I subscribed to the CT way of thought, I'd conclude that it's a way to impede citizens and make things more costly, so the bankers could skate while the rest of us sink. Hans Brinker is dead.

 

Well, for Republicans, Obama puts on his pants in the morning and its an imperial conspiracy.

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Tis sad, but true, and that is how the Republican entertainment industry makes its money.

 

I agree, air travel has become a pain. Increased security has made land travel faster than air travel in some instances. But here is the rub, do you have a better solution? We cannot have planes being turned into guided weapon systems.

 

House Republicans finally were able to pass 7 day extension. So Homeland Security has another 7 days. So Republicans won't shut down Homeland Security until after Benjamin Netanyahu speaks.

 

Homeland security is more important to Republicans than it is to democrats. The problem is the president, while breaking the law, attached the money he needs for his crime, onto the bill connected to homeland security. The Republicans were put in the position of having to vote against this to bottleneck the crime.

The analogy is, say I was president and decided to buy guns for all people with criminal records. This is not lawful, but since I think I am above the law, I try to do it anyway. The way I can trick the system is to attach this need, to the welfare bill, which gives money to poor people. These are not connected in any way, but the bill is sued that will be voted on as a unit. When the bill comes up, all have to vote for both or for neither, with political consequences either way.

The lawful minded person will feel the need to vote against this, not because they hate the poor, but because the addendum allows criminals to help criminals at the tax payer expense. I will then be able to spin that vote, to say your vote was against the poor, since you did not fund them. The mainstream media or propaganda wing will not clarify this but will run with the spin.

The way the lawful leaders need to deal with this predictable tactic, is to write a new welfare bill, that removes the criminal clause. You need to do this quickly while the spin is in action. You give this to the president to sign to show you are for the poor. If he does not sign it, since he can't run his scam, then you say he hates the poor with a veto.

You also have a bill, with just the scam request, all by itself, for all to see including the American people. This makes the supporters of the hidden scam have to blink, since they will be exposed as partners in crime and not just lovers of the poor. If the president still vetoes this, he is left hanging in the wind.

 

um obama didn't break the law. just because you hate him for having the audacity of being not white doesn't mean his actions are illegal. and I'm willing to bet you keep your trap shut during bushie's actual illegal acts.

 

In spite of the rhetoric, DHS won't be affected by it's budget, at least in the short term. People will still go to work, and their paychecks will be delayed.

 

Well here is the thing, we don't know how they will attack next. It could be a bomb. It could be another hijacking. There are many variables at play and Homeland Security must be prepared for any potential eventuality. If a terrorist would attempt another 9/11 style attack I imagine they would also change tactics. They probably know we will be on the lookout for people only interested in learning how to fly and have no interest in landing.

 

Actually, no. Some will be furloughed and some will go to work but they won't get their paychecks. http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits...darity-offer-refuse-pay-if-dhs-closes/106224/

 

No one important will miss work.

 

Tell that to the fisherman who cannot get the Coast Guard because the Coast Guard doesn't have the money to repair its equipment. I guess the fisherman isn't important. Tell that the all the Coast Guardsmen and border patrol agents who must go to work but will not get a paycheck on time. What will they tell their creditors? Do you think those Coast Guardsmen are going to like paying late fees on their credit cards and mortgages because the government didn't pay them. Not paying your employees or delaying paychecks is something deadbeat employers do. Republicans are turning our government into a deadbeat employer.

 

It will have an effect on some employees, but it's just politics to say it will jeopardize our actual security.

 

Still bullshit either way you slice it - try telling the IRS you can't pay them because you can't pass a budget and see how that Flys.... yet they can tell these poor bastards they have to work without pay...