The Importance of Sheeple

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Novalis, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. Novalis Registered Member

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    I see what you're saying, but I feel like there is a double side to this. If sheeple is the negative side of the coin, what name could the positive end possibly hold?
     
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  3. Novalis Registered Member

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    Awareness of an independent thinking Human Being
     
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  7. Novalis Registered Member

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    No, I’m not asking for an antonym or an obvious opposite, but a name to give a person leading a group of unaware people (sheeple) towards something positive. It’s important to keep in mind that this does not automatically excuse the collective for following if they are following a righteous leader, the outcome is still the same and the conclusion still remains the same; we need unassuming individuals to carry out tasks in order for anything to drastically happen, whether it’s done for good or for evil is entirely up to the Leaders and their beliefs.
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Generally when I see "sheeple" I just stop reading, because the person posting has let emotion replace rationality. (Same with "you and your ilk" or " . . like Hitler did")
     
  9. Novalis Registered Member

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    Yes, I understand where you’re coming from, however I disagree with it for reasons I will not be posting on here seeing as that is an entirely different issue in itself. Now that we’ve gotten past the term, would you be so kind as to try to answer the question instead of stating why you would not?
     
  10. Raithere plagued by infinities Valued Senior Member

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    I believe this topic should be moved to the physics forum.

    It is my contention that Sheeple are actually a quantum phenomena, similar to virtual particles.

    We can detect the effect of their presence (How else can we explain election results or the popularity of some TV shows?)

    But try as you might you can never actually find a Sheeple. Just ask around. Everyone will agree they exist,
    Sheeple are everywhere, ruining stuff with their blind, thoughtless support of the status quo. But no matter
    how many people you ask, none of them actually is a Sheeple.

    They are also related to another quantum phenomena known as the "Bad Driver". Once again, everyone agrees
    bad drivers are everywhere, causing accidents and traffic jams with their idiotic driving. But every time you
    survey people you will find that each and every one of them is either a good or excellent driver. You can never
    actually find a Bad Driver.
     
  11. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    That sounds awfully arrogant. Do you really believe that most of the people around you are mindless, your intellectual and moral inferiors?

    I agree that in general, that's true. People typically do work in order to make money. That doesn't mean that they are mindless at work, ignorant about or uninterested in whatever they spend their days doing.

    That certainly isn't true in my experience. Some of the brightest and most inquisitive people that I've ever known, I've met at work.

    And what is 'their situation'? There's a political theory behind this, isn't there? I smell the scent of Marxism, the idea that working people are mesmerized by ideology and trapped into mindlessly supporting 'capitalism' against their own best interests.

    They are 'being misguided' by whom? And precisely what sort of 'slaughter' is most of the population supposedly being led towards?
     
  12. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    That's my point. In the OP you said, "We need people to follow the crowd in order to get things done." I'm saying that we need to decide individually whether or not those things should be done. We need to decide individually when to follow and when not to follow.
     
  13. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    I wonder how anyone could follow anyone else without question.
     
  14. Novalis Registered Member

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    Arrogant as it may seem, I do believe that the majority of people I (key word here) run in to, often can’t be bothered to venture out and ask some necessary questions. Now does this mean I think they’re lower than me on any level? Not at all. It’s just how people decide to cope. Thinking out loud, and putting steps behind your beliefs requires a certain kind of bravery. It’s not for everyone.

    If what they choose to occupy their time with is unsubstantial or superficial, does that excuse the behavior?


    We should all be so lucky to have bright co workers such as yours.

    While there definitely is a political aspect to this, the main focus is on a social level – a human level. Perhaps we can get into that in another forum.

    By those who have agendas; take that however way you want to.
     
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  15. Novalis Registered Member

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    Can we agree that following is absolutely necessary? We need those who follow more than we need those who lead.
     
  16. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    That doesn't make any sense at all. That's like saying we need up more than we need down. You can't have one without the other.
     
  17. Jason.Marshall Banned Banned

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    no she is saying the people are more important than the leaders because they actually do the work but you are right as well because you also need a good leader to direct the workforce in the most efficient manner.
     
  18. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    That's what I'm saying: You can't have one without the other. It makes no sense to say that one is more important than the other.
     
  19. Jason.Marshall Banned Banned

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    Just to be obnoxious Sideshow bob hated crusty and crusty was the leader why did you pick side show bob as your avatar...lol but yeah you are right you both are right its a matter of perspective but both are necessary its all about finding the right balance I guess...
     

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