The universe is Flat?

I am reading this book:
A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing

It says that the universe was proven to be Flat.
Is it true?
And It will continue to expand and becomes cool and dead.

 

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The WMAP data (and some contend, the Planck data) support the idea that the universe is 'flat', as in 'no curvature'. I attended a colloquia with one of the WMAP data analysis people who explained their analysis in detail. This was long before the results of the Planck survey were available.

But these are microwave CBR surveys, and even if there were a Doppler shift (a difference in temperature), these folks seem to argue "no, it's not due to motion".
I don't understand why people like this even bother to use instruments, if it is their intention to ignore what their instruments tell them. It's really too bad that they do, because the measurements that they performed are about the closest we will ever come to trying to determine any absolute motion of the whole enchilada.

The type 1A supernovae data seem to say, the universe is anything but flat. These were not microwave surveys. Everyone involved understood what a Doppler shift means.

These folks (the 1A supernovae folks) have won a nobel prize for their work. The WMAP and Planck 'flat universe' people have not.

Looks like it will continue to expand. 'Cold and dead' is still an open question until we can determine exactly why it is continuing to expand at a faster rate.

 

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Hmmm... I seem to recall reading all those papers and seeing the authors recommending a flat universe...

Perhaps I am hallucinating...

[Checks papers]

Nope, not hallucinating.

There is the matter of the timing involved in those observations and who was able to first produce evidence for dark energy.

 

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Then you are reading a book of lies, no one knows what the universe is.....just a fact.

 

Is the space in front of your face flat? or is it 3 dimensional? Is the space in front of your face, part of the universe?

Halleluiah, curves are proven

 

According to the latest evidence, that's about the size of it.
When we say the Universe is flat, what can be pictured from that is that if one shone two beams of light parallel to each other out into the Universe, they will remain parallel.
The following explains much better then I....
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_shape.html

 

No not in the least.
More to the point is the fact that you actually sound like some YEC fanatic.
Science/cosmology is based on available evidence, and the available evidence tells us the Universe is most likely flat and will expand forever.

Any invoking of any deity of course is not open for discussion, as such thoughts are no more then cop outs and unscientific conclusions.
If you are not burdened by some fanatical religious propaganda, then you should learn about what a scientific theory really is.

A scientific theory is a series of statements about the causal elements for observed phenomena. A critical component of a scientific theory is that it provides explanations and predictions that can be tested.
Scientific theories of course will change over time and as observations improve and are extended. The longer a scientific theory maintains its ability to predict and explain, the more certain it becomes in acceptance.
Some that fit into that group are the BB, SR, GR, Evolution, and Abiogenesis

 

No one knows what the universe is, it is that simple. All you or anyone else can do is to make speculative theories. Anyone who knows the shape of the universe, also knows what is in my left pocket, right? or wrong?

But, once you have bought the book, they already have your money.

 

A scientific theory is a series of statements about the causal elements for observed phenomena. A critical component of a scientific theory is that it provides explanations and predictions that can be tested.
Scientific theories of course will change over time and as observations improve and are extended. The longer a scientific theory maintains its ability to predict and explain, the more certain it becomes in acceptance.
Some that fit into that group are the BB, SR, GR, Evolution, and Abiogenesis

 

A theory can be anything, saying that the universe is a shape, is not saying that the theorized shape, is such.

But once the author has your money, he or she could care less.

 

Like I said, study up on what a scientific theory is. Oh, and you are grossly wrong about no one knowing what the Universe is...It's that simple, not sure what that has to do with what you have in your pocket though....

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Again, you need to study up on what a scientific theory is, as it appears you have no idea.
With books, I am able to chose what I read....and as I stick to reputable books from reputable authors, I am certainly happy to part with that money. eg: Kip Thorne's "Black Holes and Time Warps" is far more reputable and knowledgable the the Bible written by 12 obscure men from an obscure age.

 

So what is the reputable book, that tells us that the universe "is" flat, when the space around the Earth and as far as the farthest Earth probe has traveled is 3-D. And how much did you pay for your copy.

 

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_shape.html

A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing:
Lawrence Krauss:

 

Dose that book know the shape of the universe? Or what the universe is?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Universe_from_Nothing

They know the shape of the local universe and the laws it has obeyed since before the universe was transparent to light.

 

Who exactly are "They"

 

Who exactly are you?

 

You sad buffoon. All any science has is speculative theories. Some are just better than others because of evidence.

 

And exactly what is the evidence, that the universe, is a particular shape?