The Truth About Self-Defense?

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by Carcano, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    How is a no brainer, where or why is the hard one.
    There’s actually only 3 ways you can be attacked, one is struck, grappled or attacked with a weapon.
    Everything else is just a variation of these.



    Totally untrue, that’s when training takes over, time to think is not an option so a solider or cop needs to stick to the proper procedures.
    You can’t control what other people do but you have got total control of how you respond to it.


    Yes that’s true if you only practice drills, if you actually spar or roll against a fully resistant opponent then you learn how to deal with the real shit.

    That’s basically the same question as 3, an attack can only change like that if it’s a multiple attack, even that scenario has a certain sort of logic, which you’d quickly learn if you practice swordsmanship. A single attacker is practicable to a trained fighter, because that’s what a trained fighter deals with all the time.
    Now I’m talking about a thug attacking at trained professional, a professional against a professional has more of a dueling element to it, be it boxing, sword, knife or grappling.



    If you don't practice choreographed techniques you can’t learn basic stuff like how to bring power into you’re punches, after that you can improvise to your hearts content. But you can’t pull something out of your ass and expect it to work unless you have a logical foundation to build on.
    It’s important to spar against a fully resistant opponent otherwise you’re just fooling yourself.


    All those statements are true but thinking that you’re a badass because you can beat plebes up in the street is wrong.
    I’ve been hearing this street fighting bullshit for years, so called street fighters always get their asses handed to them in hats when they go up against a trained fighter. Even if it’s no hold barred.
    Street fighting gives you no more insight then fighting in the ring. Probably less!


    Whoa that really does get my goat, does anyone remember UFC's 1 to 4, this guy is obviously a nutcase, a trained grappler can do a takedown, mount the opponent, and ground and pound him into a bloody mess in under a minute, if it comes to close contact.

    WTF! That comes from his wide experience of being spontaneously attacked by a hundreds people in the street! I guess? These streets self defense Wally’s always come up with scenario’s they’ve never actually had to deal with themselves.
    (I was being sarcastic there!) Learn to beat one person before you worry about being swarmed by the hordes of Midian.
    If a hundred people attack you, run away, don’t go to ground if there are 3 other people trying to attack you (Well Derr!), that’s what training and experience is all about!


    So you can be fat and slow and still be a badass! You can be okay at defending yourself but not be Mr. Universe, but to be really good you do need a level of fitness.

    Well I do tend to consult the rulebook when being attacked, but I do have some recommendations about fighting, one is that once the attacker is unconscious or helpless don’t keep hitting them, or choking them. That’s how people end up in coma’s and die.
    Just enough force to protect yourself and once that’s done its over, forget about revenge or punitive damage.
     
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  3. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    Bruce Lee and Steven Segal were actors, they perpetuated the myth of the power of tradition martial arts in the 60's, 70' and 80's. Now Bruce was least philosophical in this training and did have some insights and tried to ditch the baggage of ritualized MA, but he could only build one what he already knew which was flawed.
    And Segal’s so full of shit he told everyone he was in the CIA. He got choked out by a septuagenarian Judo teacher and wet his pants.
    1994 marked the death of myth of the power of traditional martial arts, but people seem to forget why Fred Ettish ended up bleeding on the canvas.
     
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  5. ScaryMonster I’m the whispered word. Valued Senior Member

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    Man are you barking up the wrong tree, Visceral Instinct, knows what she’s talking about. And she's not a fat ass Mc Dojo Karate bitch that Couldn’t defend herself against a feral budgie. She's the real deal.
     
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  7. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Aside from the kicking I see Bruce as a western Martial artist in that his biggest stylistic influences are boxing and fencing. He used the straight lead like a sword.

    He made a list of the pros and cons of various arts in his notes, which were later turned into several books after his death.

    This is what he had to say about Thai boxing:

    Pros: Elbows, knees, actual combat.

    Cons: Jab is poor, uppercut almost nonexistant, hook is inadequate, gloves prevent use of fingers and palm, no grappling, economical structure is missing, no sophistication in cadence, timing and broken rhythm.
     
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  8. madethesame Banned Banned

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    you can train yourself to punch harder and powerful so that you don't have to strike again.
     
  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You know, Madethesame, it's not necessary to reply to every thread. It's not even all that great an idea.
     
  10. madethesame Banned Banned

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    still an idea.
     

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