I am the music Genie, at least the self-professed one. I have worked in four record stores in my life, know something about all types of music and have been living and breathing it every since I was born (about 28 years ago). I consider myself an expert on music, a good judge of quality generally and I know quality music from crap. On this post, I am rescinding my theory that people have different kinds of minds/personalities that predispose them to certain kinds of music, so that what is good is relative. My new theory is that some people like good music and some people like crap. Ask the Music Genie about any group, musician or artist, I will tell you if they are good, bad or whether you should commit suicide for listening to them ("metaphorical suicide" people, I don't want any wrongful death suits flying my way). So ask away, I will give you my expert opinion. I just ask you not to name every CD in your whole collection, keep it to 3-5 tops, I do have a life here. Also, this is just a game, so don't get offended by my responses or take things personally, but if you do I am apologizing in advance.
There has already been research that proves that there isnt a specific gene that makes you like some music and not others, we infact learn what music to like by our upbringing and how we visulise the music that is being played. Well, that does seem pretty pointless, i dont need someone to tell me that the music i listen to is crap. Also, how do we know you are telling the truth, all you have to do is go and do a search on google if you havnt heard any of their work and read other peoples opinions... I hate this elitist attitude that some music listeners have, for example, people that listen to rock generally think that pop listeners are idiots just because they listen to that sort of music. (i am a rock listener and when i say rock i do not mean nu-metal or hair metal - i also do not have an elitist attitude for listening to this sort of music) What do you think?
Hmm.. lets see if your theory is right.... Anyway what I consider to be a good band with (unbelievably original) good music, is a metallic nerve wrecking melodic black death long haired Finnish dude band - CHILDREN OF BODOM!!!!!!!!! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! If you say it's crap, I WILL GUT YOU! . . . just kidding...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Okay, let's see how much common sense fredx has...! Tori Amos Nine Inch Nails Radiohead Tool Fire away, dude.
responses: Captain Crunch: can't play a little game, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah! Blood Sucking Gerbil: Children of Bodom, I give you credit for listening to something different like this, although I am not a big fan of black metal and had friends that owned almost every black metal cd that ever came out. Don't know or remember what they sound like, but I can't get past "black metal" vocals, so they suck, but props for liking them anyway. God is Irrelevant: I really love all these artists so would really be being insulting for saying anything bad, but I will say something. Tori Amos-everything up to and including boys for pele your in the clear, oh and her last single was good "A sort of Fairytale". Nine Inch Nails- the downward spiral and select songs here and there, I can't stand the stuff that has that too much industrial cheesy sound or the stuff that can embody a catchy tune, the shit that is just grating, annoying noise. Radiohead-anything before and including Kid A, after that they are just trying to put out too much music to cash in and worse yet, its depressing as hell, makes you want to commit suicide. Tool-Opiate, their first album, and aenima, after that its boring plodding prog. rock that only sounds good to you little kiddies that don't know better. Anyway, the reason I am saying this about these groups is because I think their "newer" stuff is either redundant (in terms of what they did before) or it sucks now. Elbaz: Weezer: is great, first three albums are great, haven't heard the one after the green one, they are fun and for that reason I can't insult them. Ben Kweller: wus. Ozma (occasionally): heard of them but have never heard them, make sure you keep it occasional.
Xev... I thought we agreed if it would be best if we didn't see each other anymore.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Oh well, I have to let you play, don't I? Anyway, here I go: Wumpscut: right off the bat you stumped the genie with this one, are sure this band really exists? Are you sure they are not just the sound that you boiler makes in the basement. Sadist: classic death/heavy metal band, am I correct? Surely they are not one of the top bands in history if I don't even really know that much about them. Your music listening hours are better spent elsewhere. Cassandra Complex: crap industrial, might come in handy if you need a headache to give your boyfriend a reason why he won't be getting sex tonite. All in all, very clever Xev. Oh and Rob Zombie keeps making the same damn song over and over again. oh and doing this would be real lame: "Also, how do we know you are telling the truth, all you have to do is go and do a search on google if you havnt heard any of their work and read other peoples opinions..." I am just doing this post for fun, not to make myself look smart, you really don't give me alot of credit do you cap'n crunch. Anyway, I promise I won't use a search engine to even jog my mind about an artist I have heard of or knew about before. This post will be all from my head, just so you feel secure.
fredx -- Thus far, I moderately disagree with your opinions. I think Radiohead's different albums are all a natural progression for them, and Amnesiac may very well be my favorite album by them. Lateralus is undoubtedly Tool's best in all areas, musically, lyrically, and the album just flows as a work of art. As for the kiddies, they got more airplay with the various radio songs from Aenima (Stinkfist, 46&2, Aenema). While I agree that Tori's earlier albums are her best (my favorite being Under The Pink), later albums such as Choirgirl Hotel and Venus are a big part of her evolution as an artist. Granted, they are often very different from her earlier works, but they are still quite accomplished and well-done. The Downward Spiral is my favorite NIN album, with The Fragile coming in a close second. I don't overly enjoy the cookie-cutter "industrial" music they did at times, but NIN is all about grating noise. I don't understand how you like The Downward Spiral, but not "grating, annoying noise." It's one of the most abrasive, harsh, noisy albums I've ever heard. Here's a few more of my (better known) favorites to tickle your fancy..... Beck Bjork Deftones Faith No More Incubus Marilyn Manson Our Lady Peace Smashing Pumpkins Well, that's eight more... Hope you can get around to a reply!
god is irrelevant... Choirgirl was good now that you mention it, but nowhere near what came before it. It is quite a paradox, that I don't like that abrasive noisy quality of some NIN and I liked the downwardspiral, I can't explain it, that album had something special about it, it is like a glimpse into another world for me. Beck: hes not that good, very overrated, he's lame, has a good song here in there. Bjork: I liked her first two albums somewhat, too wimpy for my taste on a whole, not enough substance to the music, annoying whiney voice at times. I like songs not industrial/dance/weird noises type music. Deftones: liked the first album with "bored"somewhat, didn't listen to it much so it wasn't that good, white pony was decent but overrated. Faith No More: like their first album and angel dust, third was okay, hard to listen to (i.e. king for a day), not that good, they tried to experiment too much or something. (After that, Mike Patton just went f'n insane). Incubus: don't like that guys voice, can deal with them sometimes, will admit their decent, songs are kind of flaky and don't have a strong structure, they just kind of blow along with the wind, I like that song "drive', because I think its their best song (esp. in terms of it's message) and the other pop. songs are good and you can groove to them, wouldn't buy an album by them. Marilyn Manson: highly overrated, real smart intellectual, nice guy and I can respect that. Music too much simple straightfoward boring rock and roll behind scary "horror" facade. Our Lady Peace: wus Smashing Pumpkins: the first one was good (soma) but more of a thing of interest than something I would spend alot of time listening to, siamese dream was good, the double album (with tonite tonite and rat in a cage) was decent but a little thin musically and when taken as a whole, pisces iscariot had some rocking tunes but was mediocre (i know it was mostly b-sides and what have you), that song by Zwan is decent but I am not about to run out and get their album.
i'll bite... Pink floyd Garbage Grandaddy The Roots oh and Zappa, Frank. those are some i like. (along with Pumpkins but you already did them)
spacemanspiff... Pink floyd: I give them props for their original style and sound and for making legendary, catchy and meaningful songs and concept albums, otherwise, I think they are highly overrated and depressing as hell to boot. Garbage: nuff said, although stupid girl and I am only happy when it rains and the last single they came out with was kind of good. Grandaddy: suck The Roots: are pretty cool, at one time or another I had all of their albums, some are better than others, their new song "seed 2.0" is pretty cool as for the guitars in it, otherwise the lyrics and singing and rapping in it are kind of weak, as an article that I did read on the internet "in the past" also attests. All in all, they should be given props for doing something different. Frank Zappa: hes too strange or weird. He is a coo coo and can be discarded from the history of music but you don't have to if you don't want to throw him out. Thanks for broadening the scope a little. Also, at your request, more on the Smashing Pumpkins, I think they are the quintessential alternative band, while PJ, soundgarden and Nirvana were forging grunge, they were creating alternative music into something "normal" people could actually deal with. I think that is their claim to fame. They made being a weirdo or a nerd cool and the effects can still be felt today, although I think Nirvana and PJ also did this in a way Billy Joel just couldn't. Thats all you get for now.
I disagree with your response to COB. Their throat-massacre vocals are the only ones that suit that style. If Alexi had sung sung it like Nightwish, it would have lost it's magic. Ok, I'll ask some more with your permission: Metallica (old stuff) Cradle of Filth Annihilator Cacophony
Ok ..*rubs lamp*...... Prodigy Gorillaz System of a down Kumar Sanu Overseer Daft Punk ...don't want to burden you now but will come with more later. Also BTW i couldn't disagree more with what you said about Incubus.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
here I go with these: Blood Sucking Gerbile: Metallica (old stuff): kill em' all blows but its historically relevant, they were doing fine even up until load 2, I think they changed the style on Load because there was only so far they could go what they were doing, after that: garage inc. and the S&M are a f'n disgrace. The number one metal band ever for the most part even though they are washed up now. Cradle of Filth: crazy music, interesting lyrics: I know because Xev posted some of them, COF was the fav. band of my high school friends, pretty wild and chaotic and evil and crazy. I am not into it. My friend who loved them had a gf that didn't really like them and she called them bag of filth which I though was funny and possibly quite on the money. Annihilator: the old thrash/metal band? Get the hell out of here with that. Old hat. Cacophony: more gloomy death/dark/black metal. I trying to stay in a positive mood here, this music just isn't good for that. Seargantlard: Prodigy: I know there pop. songs "exhale" and "firestarter" and theres another one I know thats pretty good. That kind of music blows, it gets you excited and crazy and then what, you still have to go the work the next day. Gorillaz: "i'm happy, then I'm sad...its music...on and on the future...blah...blah." Mediocre! System of a down: they rule. The first album was kind of weak. They had to get in form. Second album was great. They have the best and most important lyrics of any band ever. The third is decent. 2-3-1, thats how to rate their albums, even though they are all good and all have their bright songs and moments. Kumar Sanu: is he Indian, not sure if I know him, when in grad school they had a multiculural day and they played a Indian pop music guy that I really liked. I went to the store to get it, but didn't have the name, ended up buying someother guy that wasn't as good. I don't know this guy. I had a recent album by Ravi Shankar though (I think he died) that was a very spirtual type album and was very good. I don't know this person, or band or anything about this. Overseer: I know Overdose, which were a spanish death metal band ala Sepultura or Biohazard although they were not as good as either of these. Overseer, sounds like crap. Daft Punk: again more of that hip pop electronica, you can do better with your music bucks. More about Incubus: maybe my problem is less that their music isn't structural strong, I just think they are not tough and heavy enough to be a hard rock band, they are a bit wus. Ndrs: Thievery corporation: like the name, probably wouldn't like the music. Actually I think I heard them before, refer to the other groups here like them for what I think. Stereo MC's: if they're other music is like "get yourself connected" than I think its wus. Goldfrapp: what? Leave me alone already with these crazy bands. Massive attack: I think "ambient noise" music like this is often cool when used in a commercial or to set a mood or tone in a movie, but you really have to have your head examined if you listen to this for pleasure, unless you just use it for background music to jangle your gf's nerves so that her thinking gets dizzy and she gives you head. Nightmares on wax: I don't think I have to comment on this. But if I do see above. Nightpoet: Birdbrain: what? Stabilo Boss: huh? these bands sound like indie rock (independent rock). I never got indie. Nobody does except indie people. Indie people outwardly begrudge and inwardly love green day, for selling out on them. Isn't that the nature of the world. Holly McNarland: sounds country or folk, I think I might have heard of her, i'll stick to lucinda williams or Lorena Mckennit. note: if I haven't heard of alot of these bands it is either that they suck or that it would be better if they stuck to providing "ambient" soundscapes for movies like "The Mothman Prophecies" or "Trainspotting" or "Requiem for a Dream", etc. You people are quite tough, I will give you that, but I am not afraid.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Also could you guys and girls mix it up with more bands that people would actually know or care about.
Fair enough... wus? You probably didn't even listen to it. Crazy? What do you mean crazy bands? Your opinion is simply......Simply.. eh... Well you don't really seem to have a opinion. Background music? You haven't listened to it... There's more to every analysis than saying it's just background music. In conclusion: 1. You are not able to listen to music. 2. Judging by responses to others as well, you are more of a lame ass joker than a music genie. Obviously the depth of your music knowledge is toe deep. I feel sorry for the music shops you have worked in. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Sorry man... this is the kind of response I was afraid of. Refer to my first post where I apologized in advance. This post is meant to be taken half seriously and half jokingly, its sort of like a theatre of cruelty, although I have tried not to be too cruel, because its really not in my personality. Sorry if you think I took it too far.
hahaha... You being cruel? You are right... You can't be cruel. Which part of your post should be taken seriously? I don't see a single part. And, I don't see how this can be funny either. You seem to have a lack of depth of understanding in any field. (Judging by some hilarious replies in the Philosophy section)
