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I'm pointing out your contradictory and hypocritical positions.

 

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America needs to kick the money changers out of the temple.

 

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America was an idea. One that no longer exists. Now we're just another State again.

And, given the propensity for which the Chattel Class favor magic-thinking and social stability, I wouldn't be surprized if we don't see the beginnings of a true Aristocracy in our lifetimes - in one form or another. Recall how Americans cheered the election of Bush II. Listen to them as they cheer for "Progressive" Hilary. Most Americans want to be ruled over. Personal freedom and civil responsibility is the last thing an Amoorikkkan wants to come in contact with. The very last thing.

Again, America was an interesting idea. Think of it as a historical aberration that arises from time to time every millennium or so.

 

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I'd also add, look at how easily they were conned into bailing out the richest 0.1%. And for what? Stability. The stability of knowing someone, somewhere is taking care of things. Someone other than themselves. People favor stability over freedom any day of the week. Even the American Revolutionary War itself was only fought by around 3% of the population. The vast majority of the Chattel Class would end up referring to themselves as either American Citizens or as English Subjects - and not have given a good God Damn one one way or the other.

 

More than a little disingenuous don't you think? The number of Americans who fought in the Revolutionary War was .ire like 5 to 6 percent. At the apex of WWII no more than 9% of Americans fought that war. And WWii was a world war, the largest war ever fought.

Further the policies you advocate empower the 1% at the expense of the 99%. None of this is new to you. It has all been discussed numerous times before.

 

Put down the glass cock Joe, the crack is starting to rot your brain.

The Progressive's Central Bank you support just bailed out the 0.1% richest most powerful Americans in history. The same people who should be IN prison - now own the prisons. What a farce. Oh well, as I said, this is the new normal. Amoorikkkans want to be Regulated like tax Chattel, and so they will be. Enjoy the Police State. Try not stepping on any homeless children on your way home.

 

Unfortunately for you Michael no amount of ad hominem is going to change reality. The central bank I support, bailed out everyone...especially middle and low income people. It kept them employed. It kept their bank deposits safe. It kept their employers in business. It kept the banks working. It kept the ATMs, their debt and credit cards working. It saved their paychecks. That is what the central bank did, and this isn't new to you. It has all been explained to you numerous times over the years.

The irony here is your fanatical support for the policies which created The Great Recession and benefit the 1%ters. Deregulation is what caused The Great Recession.

 

LOL what a f*cking fantasy you live in.

Lucky for the Banking Criminals they bought themselves a pathetic POTUS who wouldn't prosecute them for their banking crimes - assuming he even cared, which he doesn't.
Yup: "Too Big To Jail".
And, given the Statutes of Limitations has run out on most of their criminal activities - hell, most were given more money to continue to run the same banks or they retired and became slum-lords. So, we can expect these criminals to do this again and again and again. And the Amoorikkkan public will roll over and take it like the pathetic functionally illiterate Tax Chattel they are. Hurry now, the Progressive State is going to help you out with 'childcare' vouchers so you can put your 3 week old infants into State regulated Day Supervision Factories and can get back to making your Farmer's milk and meat.

The Government is a cancer, it will grow and grow and grow until one day it kills it's host.
- POTUS Bush II legalized NSA spying on Americans and legal torture.
- POTUS Oblahma maintained NSA spying on Americans and legalized murder. Judge, jury and executioner. Murdered two Americans, one a child.
If you like your New Economy, you can keep your New Economy.

Keep waving your Made In China American flags - and I do hope you're enjoying the New Economy, it isn't going anywhere.

 

LOL - "The GREAT Recession"

Explain Japan Joe.
Explain Europe Joe.
Explain Ireland Joe.
Explain Iceland

Oh, that's right, Japan has been in a recession since way BEFORE our "Great" recession and guess what Princess, the US CONgress doesn't regulate Japanese banking. Or Irish or European or Icelandic. Secondly, banking is MASSIVELY regulated. There is a neck and neck race between Finance and Medicine in terms to which has the most Regulations. And so of course, both are totally f*cked. No one even knows how many Regulations there are - that's THAT many.

The problem with Banking is we have a Central Bank, with Central Planners doing what they've always done - destroying the fabric of society.

Of course, the Government's "Too Big To Fail AND Too Big To Jail" policy tells everyone everything they need to know. The State isn't going to enforce the LAWS or regulations already on the books. What it will do is use the IRS and Treasury to force Laborer's and their children and their children's children to pay on Debt Obligations to bail out a bunch of criminals for generations and generations to come. Transferring an unknowable amount of wealth from the poor and shrinking middle class and making the richest 0.1% the richest humans in history.


But don't worry Joe, the State will drum up a new war soon enough and kill off the poorest of the poor - the rest they shovel into Government Slum-Housing where they can die out of sight of what's left of the middle class (who will be joining them soon enough).

Maybe if we're lucky we'll even get a Dictator or the equivalent to go along with our Police State. I'm 100% positive Amoorikkkans will cheer a Dictator as much as they cheer for more their State Regulators. That's what the Chattel Class does. Cheer for it's Farmers and make milk and meat.

 

You like to play fast and loose with the truth Michael. Fast is important to you. You don't want people thinking too much lest they should see your errors of fact and reason.

All of this has been repeatedly explained to you over the years.

 

They all set up deregulated banks - the US, the big dog in the fight, was one of the last to remove its banking regulations, after which it was just a matter of time.

Japan, of course, had had a free market unregulated banking system installed by American war profiteers and financial interests right after WWII - so they were the first to suffer. In the runup to the collapse, the financial press in the US was full of stories about how the Japanese were eating our lunch with their superior freedom of action by capitalist financiers - effective propaganda that helped get rid of the post-Depression experience - based banking regulations.

Icelanders took a hard look at what their free market capitalist bankers had done to their country, and voted in a bunch of women with no financial loyalties to regulate their banking system - they've been doing OK since.

Plantation slavery and territorial expansion by violence - capitalism at its unregulated best.

 

Advocates cheer Obama’s immigration [Execuative] Orders

Big Agro and Big Tech 'leaders' cheer Executive Orders

AAHHHHHHhahahahaha....... LOL. Yes, isn't it so much more 'efficient' and 'effective' and satisfying? Just bypass CONgress and let an 'Executive' get to work and do The People's Business not having to put up with an uncooperative CONgress.

Amoorikkkans will LOVE a Dictator.

Absolutely LOVE a Dictator.

What's the next step? Well, first we need to set a few more precedents whereby the POTUS takes unilateral action - maybe even imprisoning a few of the less than cooperative Congressmen and women for 'Crimes against the State' (given all of us break numerous regulations and laws on a daily basis - this should be easy enough, or just send the IRS after them). Amoorikkkans will normalize to that quickly enough - couple years at most.

Now that the Banksters have destroyed much of the fabric of society, it's about time we got a "Good" POTUS who can 'fix this mess'. Probably by killing off most of them as well as those who benefited from the banks criminality in the past. Well, to be fair, we'll give them a chance to hand over all their assets to the State (for the Good of Society). Then we'll just tax or presecute the rest from them.

I'm 100% positive the cheers from the public will be deafening and more importantly, make good television viewing/Youtube viewing. Oh, and as for the POTUS - this needs to be extended from 4 years. Lets say, minimum appointment to POTUS is 10 years. Then Amoorikkkans can feel safe knowing someone's getting the job done and has the time needed to 'effect change'. For the Good of Society. Of course, 'electing' their son (see: Bush II) only makes good sense too. And we all know how Amoorikkkans loving making sense. Let's codify that into Law. A proper "American" Aristocracy - it's much more stable. And, A-moo-moo-moo-rikkkans love stability almost as much as they love someone telling them what they can do, and how they can do it.


Mark my words, functionally illiterate Amoorikkkans will cheer just as loud, even louder, for their Dictator, than they already do for their State Regulators.
More Regulation.
Less Civil Liberty.

That's the Amoorikkkan Way.

 

Michael while I express and side fully w/ your views on USA, I think referring to USA as "Amoorikkka" and other letter repetitions is somewhat childish, just saying. They are Americans in America, simple.

 

It's meant to be childish. Amoorikkkans are children.

Why, here's a functionality illiterate high school graduate rolling on by right here. Probably on his way to the polling station to pull the magic Left-Right lever.

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Nearly half oppose executive orders.....LOL.

What CNN meant to say was over 50% of the general public approve of bypassing CONgress and favor an Executive issuing orders that have the full force of law. And this is immigration. Imagine if it were hanging rich Banksers and other's who profited in the run-up to 2008? I imagine you'd find plenty of people lined up to watch their hanging in the public square? Maybe 90% in favor?

Lets recall, the ONLY manner in which Government/Public groups of humans delineate themselves from Private groups of humans - is that Government is obligated to initiate force against INNOCENT people whereas Private groups of humans require the provision of perceived value and voluntary agreement to initiate an interaction.

Of course over 50% of 'The People' support an Executive issuing orders that direct the State to initiate Force against other Innocent groups of humans. It's how Chattel think. They like knowing their Farmers are taking care of things so they can safely wander about their pen focusing on the task at hand - eating, shitting and making their Farmers milk and meat. Their cheers will be deafening when they finally get what they truly adore, a Dictator. I imagine life may actually improve for the average Peon - at least in the beginning. Maybe a generation, possibly two. Just long enough to forget all about this nonsense of Limited Government, which, was abandoned well over a century ago.

All of which is inline with any reading of history as we return to the trend-line of alpha-male run societies. The whole Limited Government was a historical adoration that arises from time to time. For most of history, alpha-males (kings, emperors, lords, shogun, prophets, caliphates, pharaohs, etc...) rule over masses of functionally illiterate superstitious imbeciles.

Welcome to Amoorikkka.

 

Why do you give Russia a pass or are Russian taxation, state control and gulags ok with you?

You said you love a dictator, do you love Putin?

 

I'm not Russian, why do I care about what Russians do? It's their business. Not to mention, unlike the USA, Russia doesn't have a tradition of LIMITED government - whereas our country was founded on this long forgotten (and given up on) ideal.

As for Gulags, the USSA has the largest non-violent prison population in history.

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Notice how the prison population absolutely balloons and begins to buckle under the weight of Generation Baby.

Baby Boomers and the crime rate

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It seems as if there was something unholy and unnatural about Generation Baby. It's no wonder they helped themselves to generational amounts of prosperity at the expense of their children, grandchildren and now great grandchildren. Yes, while Generation Baby gets to retire at 55 (or 47 like my father) - their grand children will never retire. They'll die working to pay back all the money used to bail out the Baby's retirement funds. They'll spend their lives renting from their great grandparents. Or not. Given the Millennial Generation is much larger than Generation Baby, they may come up with alternative solutions.

As for Amooricans propensity to support Dear Leader. Oh, I'm sure you fully support O-blah-ma's use of Executive Orders. And so-called "Conservatives" will do likewise when 'their guy' is in office. Thus we'll normalize to having an "Executive" bypassing CONgress, and slowly, as a culture builds up around the use of Executive Orders - this will be the ONLY way Law is made in the USSA.

So, as I said, don't worry, we're getting more Government - not less. More.

 

So statism is fine for Russia because Russia has a history of statism and the US doesn't?

 

He is actually abiding by the powers vested in him by Congress - in full and complete obedience to the law and the Constitution, and simply doing his assigned job.

Meanwhile, we have the spectacle of our self-described "libertarians", the ones who claim to be champions of free markets and free people, the ones who would never ever subscribe to the authoritarian edicts of that terrible US government, the ones who claim to be able to see right through all that Fox bs they otherwise seem to be relying upon for their world view,

those guys, the supposed freedom advocates,

going spla at the merest hint of a US government official in his official capacity even temporarily relaxing some of its oppressive, onerous, and freedom-crippling bureaucratic regulations as enforced on a racial minority.

And so we see them coming out from behind all that rhetorical libertarianism, and joining hands with their forefathers in "liberty" - the Confederate States of America.

Because in fact they look upon the early government of the US

- the slaveowning, Mexican warmongering, Indian "removing", anti-immigration law imposing, collection of landlords and bankers and monarchists and colonial exploiters and con men and criminals and younger sons on the make,

and they see the way things should have gone, the US the way it was meant to be.

 

I don't know how you inferred that? Statism is immoral - ALL Statism. Including ours. Including Russia's. Including Theocracies. Including Democracies. Including Republics. Including Juche. Including Aristocracy. Including Empirical. Including Oligarchies. And etc....

I'll leave it up to the Russians to deal with their own immoral State.

Statism in the USA was LIMITED. That's the whole foundation of our particular State.
Constitutional Limit to the Evil that is the State.

In an ideal world, there'd be no State. As we don't live in an ideal world, the Framers decided a Limited State would be the best option. Of course, this didn't work, because people want to use violence against one another. Thus was born the USA and the US Constitution which still, greatly limited the State. Of course, this hasn't worked either and, as we continue to expand the powers of the State, and rely on the State, we'll find it to be quite inefficient. Of course, now that we're knee deep, and everyone is used to the muck and morass that is the State, they'll naturally be inclined towards a more 'efficient' form of Government. Which, of course, in rule by decree. So that's what will happen/is happening. No need for 'Conspiracy Theories' - it's just the natural outcome of relying on the use of Force against innocent people. Thus, we'll eventually end up with an Executive. And from there it only makes sense to 'elect' their decedents (see Georgie-Porgie the II). People seek security. People dependent on the State will naturally want to see it stable. The most stable form of government is Aristocracy.

The Banks should have been allowed to collapse in 2008. This is the natural means of progress. GM should have been allowed to go bankrupt. Yeah, I know, people hate uncertainty. As soon as you create a State with the power to prevent progress and give them security - it's game over. A slow grinding erosion of society. That's where we live. It's why Government Schools still take summers off to bring in the harvest and give State Certified Graduate Diplomas to functional illiterates at a rate of 1 in 5. Do you see Government Unions cheering on privatization and competition? No! If the whip makers had had their way there'd be no automobiles. If USPO had it's way, there's be no USPS. And if Government Unioned Teachers get their way, they'll picket and use the State to stop Chartered Schools and any other forms of competition from entering their stagnate cesspool of a so-called pedagogy. And they do. The USA is so pathetic you requite a State licence to sell arranged flowers, to taxi people, to fix computers, and on and on the list goes.

You think the problem is freedom? Keep thinking that. And don't worry, we're getting more State and we're losing more Liberty along with our Privacy. So called "Free" markets are the very very very last thing you need to worry about breaking out in the USSA.
Enjoy the New Economy. It's not going anywhere.