And where is your evidence that a dollar spent by the US is ten times less valuable than a dollar spent by Mother Russia, or the EU or Japan? The unpleasant fact for you is that the US has funded the lion’s share of the ISS. The technology is mostly American. Space Shuttle program costs were not included in the ISS cost numbers as the shuttle program has its own budget separate and apart from the ISS budget. The US is currently paying Russia an amount equivalent to a space shuttle launch for launching astronauts into space. Except that isn’t true. Your numbers are wrong. The shuttle program was a separate program separate and apart from the ISS program. Only ISS costs were included in ISS costs. Further, the average costs of a space shuttle launch were 450 million dollars per launch. That is a far cry from you 1.4 billion dollar number. The space shuttle was larger than any Russian launch vehicle and carried more supplies than any Russian craft. A shuttle resupply mission carried more supplies and therefore required fewer resupply missions. “The average cost to launch a Space Shuttle is about $450 million per mission.” http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/about/information/shuttle_faq.html#10 The reason the space shuttle program was terminated was to pursue deep space exploration and foment commercial development of space. The space shuttle program wasn’t terminated early as you suggest for performance reasons. Quite the contrary, the shuttle program was envisioned to have a 15 year program life. The program was extended far beyond its original expectancy. If it had been terminated on schedule, shuttle flights would have ended in 1996 not 2011. I am not a shuttle program advocate. I think the money could have been better spent. But that doesn’t change the fact that your assertion that the ISS somehow is an example of Russian glory. And when the ISS ends, what will Russia do? Private enterprises will takeaway Russia’s space tourism business. It has no major projects in the offing. It will not be getting the US subsidies which have kept the program alive since the fall of the Soviet Union. It won’t have new launch vehicles. It won’t have interplanetary capabilities. Russian hasn’t kept up with the West. It hasn’t launched any deep space exploration. The Europeans recently landed a probe on a comet. Where is Russia? Nowhere, their space program is on its last leg. They are not recruiting new blood into their space program. Their scientists and engineers are aging. It just isn’t a pretty picture especially when you consider the shrinking Russian economy.
LOL, yeah, I am sure you want to focus on anything but the facts. You have clearly and repeatedly demonstrated that preference in your posts.
thing is, your "facts" are CNN bull*** facts and my facts are Russia Today facts. One is for US agenda and the other is for Russia agenda.
Actually, your problems are with more than just CNN. It is with all independent news agencies around the globe. Unfortunately for you, there is only one set of facts and you are on the wrong side of them.
The US has funded the lionshare yes but it would all be over without Russia. The reasons are: -Transport (both supplies als crew happens by the russians (For now) (this might be changed with the manned dragon and orion) -Altitude control it's the russian part that adjust the altitude preventing the station of reentry trough orbital decay (this could theoretically be changed by the VASIMR engine but as it turns out it will be placed for testing purposes not general use it would also apear it would be attached to the main truss. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Truss_Structure#S0_truss -Life support: even the americans life support system is placed in zvesda, the life support is tricky it difers a bid from the Russian version that uses more chemicals their isn't really a plan to get it into the US segment current research is to make it more quit (mostly a fan thing it's a complaint of the astronauts) and increase it's efficiency. - Various backups both NASA (US); ESA (most of europe); jaxa (japan)and CSA (canada) use the same system whilst Russia uses the lira antenna on zvesda)... I'm not sure but I believe the US segments 2 radios use satelites whilst the russian segment can make direct control with the surface. Japan is also planning some sort of radio but their little detail avaible That's the russians integral part. Without them you wouldn't be able to get to the station, you wouldn't be able to suplly them with food and instruments, you couldn't keep them alive and the station would eventually burn up. To overcome that, you would need the orion or manned ragon craft (on it's way) move the life support system to the USOS part (not exactly sure if that is possible) and use experimental never tried in space tech for orbital control. It might not be impossible... Yet the shuttle still managed the hemorrhage 450 million in the ISS budget. mission and mission integration ($300 million) medical support ($25 million) Shuttle launch site processing ($125 million) Where all in the ISS budget. This is a exmple for the 2005 STS-114 mission with the discovery shuttle. It's space shuttle budget (wich you refered to) was a other 450 million Then offcourse we are ignoring the development budget that spread out over all the shuttle mission would have mae it cost 1.3 billion dollar (but that is the disputed number and doesn't include the ISS part. Yust the money spend on doing the R&D, test and facilities that made the hardware. Yep the cancellation for the space shuttle happend for a reason it was a great concept reusability and we can see this concept returns in spacex and the less certain skylon. It is the right way forward but to many things went wrong with the space shuttle. Your right tough that the Russian space programs future is less then certain. It's basicly pure cooperation with nations you have the ISS as main example here. Depending on what the future holds in store I imagen they will continue side with the west and if that's not longer possible Chine or the BRICS. I doubt much would come from it But a combinend China and Russia could be a contender especially if they can get others as well (Kazackstan for hardware + others). In all russias space future doesn't look good afther the ISS.
I have thousands of sources saying your opinions (which are just that, opinions) are incorrect. I've even sent wiki articles with multiple Russian news sources to strengthen my point. If you refuse to listen, and only make blows about my post count instead of the topic then you don't really need to reply. Admit that you are wrong and get over it so we can all go back to what really matters.
Youreyes and those like him should wonder what Putin is afraid of? Why are independent and dissident voices such a threat to him that he only allows the press he controls operate in Mother Russia? Are Russians so weak minded that they cannot handle the truth?
I have a thousand sources saying my opinions are opinion of the 144 millions of Russians and counting strong and united. Quote that.
No, you have one source repeated 143 million times and opinion is no substitute for evidence and reason. And Russia isn't as "united" as you make it out to be. http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...otest-forced-psychiatric-treatment-dissidents http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/19/world/russia-sochi-pussy-riot/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/firewal...ssion-makes-chinas-look-clumsy-by-comparison/ http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/04/26/the_billionaire_dissident
History isn't written by popular opinion, a lie is still a lie regardless of how many people believe it to be true.
That my friend is the fate of the Nazis of Hitler Germany, who all believed in their lies and mostly died for it too. The same very Nazis who were granted asylum in USA and built the nation with their principles.
LOL, seriously? You and Mother Putin are reenacting the early days of Nazism. That's why Western powers are so concerned. Rightfully so, they don't want to repeat the mistakes of WWII. Appeasement didn't work with Hitler and it won't work with Putin. Nazis didn't create the USA. You need to brush up on your American history. Nazis were not given Carter Blanche asylum in the US. The US did grant asylum to some German scientists who did not participate in Nazi atrocities. Russia did the same with this exception, it wasn't a choice for the scientists.
Oh, okay then. You just made a comparison between Russia and Nazi Germany. You also misinterpreted my meaning to make it more beneficial to your point. When I say "History isn't written by popular opinion" I mean that objectivism is needed in analyzing historical events, falsifying history doesn't make those falsifications true because you call them "History". I could say that Adolf Hitler was an avid ball dancer and techno musician, just because I said it, doesn't make it true - hence the "objectivism". Anything can be stated, but without unfalsifiable documentation, it can only be speculated as being false. I chose those wiki articles specifically because I knew that they had proper citation into objective news sources (I.E. Russian, as well as American professionals). Any sort of proofing you have tried to provide in order to refute mine and joepistole's claims has been purely speculative opinion. As soon as you show some objective research into the topic, I will refuse to listen to anything you have to say about it.
This is a fairly good article written by a man who was born and raised in the Soviet Union. He is a former Russian who is now an American living in Colorado. http://www.businessinsider.com/russias-showdown-with-west-will-worsen-2014-11
is everything allright with your vision? You seem to be blind. I just compared Nazi Germany to USA and what it is doing now.
This. Putin, like all dictators, wants to eliminate anything that poses a threat to his power. That's why he cracks down on dissenters, rival politicians, media sources that don't tow the party line, and ethnic nationalists in Russia (even as he encourages ethnic nationalism and separatism in eastern Ukraine).
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