Christianity is based on substitutionary atonement. Is it a moral religion?

Death isn't necessary to life. It has nothing to do with logic or reason. The more we know the less we die. Salvation is the only thing.

 

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He would create beings that require salvation knowingly because it pleases him. God is all powerful. He can reproduce and his sexual side is the incarnation of Shiva. Everything is done according to the Kabbalah code. God has different egos. As Ein Soph he does the work of a man and reproduces according to the number 666 to produce all types of fallen beings. He reigns as Yahweh and uses the name Yod He Vau He to reign as a wizard or a white wizard and nothing gets past him.

 

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Who or what do you need saving from? Is that savior not the same entity that condemned you in the first place?

Does God change his mind?
Scriptures say no.

Regards
DL

 

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Save me from the lack of me. The lack of self and knowledge makes for jealousy and greed. Bad things are not created they only exist as a corroded virtue. The lack of thing.

Jesus died on the cross a passive martyr, any wrath or killing by God would be blasphemous toJesus' nature. God is Love, and his son non-conflict transgression and violence, Passive. I see how God takes offense to sinners trampling on his perfection, but God fighting would only be with himself, the all mighty creator.

 

Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.

Jesus said to pick up your cross and follow him but I see that you have taken the line that someone else should pay your dues. Quite manly and moral that. Not.

Do you really think someone else can pay your dues and allow you to shirk your just reward?

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Ezekiel 18:20 (ESV) The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

The declaration which says that God visits the sins of the fathers upon the children is contrary to every principle of moral justice. [Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason]

As above so below.

If you had God's power, would you not be able to find a way that does not go against the wisdom of Jesus and the bible?

Perhaps like being man enough to step up to your own demands for a worthy sacrifice?

That is what a good God would do.

Regards
DL

 

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin"

This ended with the Coming of the Christ as promised;

“ In those days, the people will no longer say, ‘ The Fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children teeth are set on edge’” Because each is to die for his own sins. Every Man who eats sour grapes will have his teeth set on edge. Jeremiah 31:29-30

Most people like reading the Bible selectively. But Christ is Logos, who give back to Man, his own creation.
"Very soon, now, I shall be with you, again, bringing the reward to be given to every man, according to what he deserves. I, am the Alpha, and the Omega, the First, and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Happy are those who will have washed their robes clean, so that they will have the right to feed on the tree of Life, and come through the gates into the city" Revelation 22:11-13.

 

LOL.

You would have God say that barbaric human sacrifice is immoral but do one more for me and we can finally end that immoral practice.

You make God the fool that he would be if he followed you view.

Regards
DL

 

This also describes why quotas and the quota system are not moral. The quota system is immoral because it makes the children responsible for the sins the father. Each should be judged based on what they did or did not do. Liberalism believes in relative morality. This relative scam is needed to allow the children to pay for the sins of the fathers, even though they did nothing. It also allows those who did not suffer to benefit by an immoral shakedown of innocent people who did nothing.

 

I never said I would have someone die me. Pacifist dont believe in anyone dying.

 

So no Christian who plans on riding their scapegoat Jesus into heaven are pacifists. Who knew.

Be they pacifists or not, they are still immoral and think they should profit from God murdering his son.

Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.

Regards
DL

 

Jesus was a pacifist. No other way does he go willingly. He must believe in heaven and salvation to have died on the cross with righteousness. The devil getting his toll in Jesus blood will never be moral, or the idea of the sacrifice by God. Totally savage.

 

So now you know how Jesus thought. Wow. And meanwhile all religions say that God is unfathomable and unknowable.

Literalists are so foolish.

Regards
DL

 

God is made of knowledge. Time without life is death. An un-knowable God is the devil.

 

Woooooo. Wooooo.

Regards
DL

 

Ignorance kills the lamb. The lamb loves ignorance and ignorance becomes beautiful omniscience friend of all.

 

The believer is the lamb , which kills the lamb

 

The lamb is self inhibiting? What do you mean?

 

The lamb does not know that it is self inhibiting

The lamb lacks awareness of its self inhibiting

 

Don't you understand? God did not kill the Christ! Man, killed the Christ. Man brutalized tortured, mimed, and murdered the Christ. God resurrected the Christ, and clothed the Human Spirit, with the Christ, but He refused to heal the Christ. “ A man can have no greater love, than to lay down his own life for his friends. You are my friends. If you do what I command you.” John 15:12-14 There, he says it. He laid down his life for you. And now he tells you, So, every Man must heal the Christ. So, in as much as God is said to have sacrificed the Christ, in truth, Christ sacrificed himself. So, just as Christ sacrificed himself he now tells every man to sacrifice himself!! “Anyone who does not take his cross and follow my footsteps is not worthy of me” Mathew 10:37-38

 

This is not true. The lamb is make believe. The lamb knows all.