I want to kill myself

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Avatar, Apr 18, 2003.

  1. ndrs The Anti-Cthulhu Registered Senior Member

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    Hell.. I was just looking back at sciforums...
    I have a similar urge to avatar's... well, sort of similar..:
    If I sit next to a person , sometimes I just want to hit them. Doesn't matter who it is, a friend, an unknown, but the stupidier the person, the more I want to hit them. Yep, I guess I'll be really needing some help soon.

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    From Avatar's description the feeling seems similar, I can totally control it. Usually, the reason behind it is "What if?..". Or maybe I just don't let out enough energy.

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  3. Dana D It's all about balance Registered Senior Member

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  5. Revolution Registered Senior Member

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    WOw.

    I actually want to check out but I am not so sure of the suicide, just in case its frowned upon in the afterlife.

    I pray every day for the asteriod to hit or my heart to stop. Yes I think this form is depression. But it just sucks being human! We suck! I will miss certain foods, but not having to eat every day to survive. And work? BS! Its so PLASTIC. And sex is good but its too much of a pain and the whole married and kids thing, HELL NO!

    If god or whatever controls things cant do the asteriod then why wont he just do me? Quick and painless let me out of this little body robot thing. Or give me super power like Q from Star Trek or Nuke war SOMETHING to make it interesting. Guess I could go out and live off the land in the woods but it would not be the same unless it was forced upon with cataclysm!

    But what would be worse,

    1-Nothingness for ever after
    3-Immortal for ever having to keep doing these body things (Guess what soldier! Need ya back on Earth! BWAHAHAHAHAAH!! And I'd be like NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
     
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  7. Thor "Pfft, Rebel scum!" Valued Senior Member

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    Avatar, what you are experiencing is actually normal.

    Everybody has a self-destructive part of us and a self-preserving part of us.
    People with a stronger self-destructive side do more adventurous and risky things like climbing a cliff with no rope, etc.
    People with a stronger self-preserving side don't take that many risks and are pretty boring.

    Each of these two more or less balance each other and that's why we don't throw ourselves off cliffs like lemmings nor do we just sit in a padded room all our lives and wait for our demise.

    See, I do learn stuff in Psychology

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  8. doom Registered Senior Member

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    I think you should just go ahead and kill yourself,your probably a dipshit anyway.

    The worlds full of too many dipshits,
    like what is it with people and there cellphones?
    pissing about with there ring tones,having it ready to ring in a theatre or using it while driving,they think there cool,
    youre not and i hope you die.

    What is it with websites/forums that dont allow you to swear?
    who cares,im getting pissed off with the fact the world is full of dipshits and pussy ass wimps whining all the time about why i cant say something,yeah like you dont say or even think nasty shit about me.

    What is it with people smiling all the time and being happy,you can only be happy if:
    a)your a dipshit
    b)your a dipshit

    after you with the gun
     
  9. Revolution Registered Senior Member

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    And this is why I am hoping for the asteroid. Or super bug, hell alien invasion anything to get rid of these type of people! I want to check out but I hope god takes out these kind of people as well!
     
  10. doom Registered Senior Member

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    If god exists,god is a dipshit too,that makes sense
    god made man in his own image,
    yeah the image of dipshit.
     
  11. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    I would confront a lion with a huge grin on my face if I knew every other single person was gonna take my lead.
    I couldn't do it now for that very reason, every other jerkass would be living it up while I lied there, dead, like a sucker.

    Doom you sound like YOU want to kill yourself.
    The world is in chaos what with people not letting you swear and all

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    Might as well end it and sit in your grave swearing in peace with no "stupid grown upz" telling you what to do

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  12. doom Registered Senior Member

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    Er no doc i do not need to kill myself,
    dont tell me to grow up,id rather people fuck off and kill themselves and leave me alone to live.

    Instead i have to live in a world full of shit.

    No i think suicidal people are idiots,they just need a good ass kicking to show em whats what.

    They probably got bought too many toys as a kid and were overall spoilt,then when things dont go there way they top emselves,boo-hoo like anyone gives a shit,i certainly dont.
     
  13. doom Registered Senior Member

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    Basically when you look around we're nothing but a bunch of walking organic computers pre-programmed with some senseless shit,and out of that cos we are supposed to be intelligent(i use that loosly) we create our own little set of programs which should be called dipshit programs.

    The only sign of real intelligence is when(like me) we try to work out what we're doing here,learn about the stars,about time,physics,maths and so on.

    But then you get these idiots who are religous,who just say
    "theres a god,there is no other reason,he made this,made that.....blah blah blah

    Yeah he also made stupidity,if you cant see it you need your eyes tested,or better yet rip them out and stamp on them as you sound like a no hope case.
     
  14. river-wind Valued Senior Member

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    doom, I think that no one is wrong in what they do as long as they follow what they know, and are truthful to themselves. the only way for someone to be wrong is for them to act contrary to what they know to be the best thing. What they do now might prove to be wrong later, but they didn't know any better at the time, so how are their actions "wrong"?

    I hate when people use the god excuse to avoid thinking about something. it's dumb, non-productive, and doesn't really help anyone, IME.


    You seem to be much worse off than Avatar here. he think about his own death alot, you however, don't seem to be thinking about much beyond the first level of expirience. aNd that is a terrible state to be in.

    What happens when a tree falls over? If your first and largley only answer is "it make a noise" or "it crushes a small animal", and nothing more, then THAT IS WHERE YOUR PROBLEM LIES! What happens after that? the wood decays. and then? insects and animals move in. and then? plants take root. and then? the tree turns to rich soil. and then. a new tree grows. and then? Keep asking!

    Alot of the people I talk to who seem overly angry or depressed seem to only see the first two steps of a situation. This sucks! everything dies! everyone sufferes, then they get old and croak! Look beyond that, and things tend towards nutrality. all the dumb people who you are angry will die, often time getting smarter before they do. The rich kids will know what it's like to have nothing, and the poor kids will realize that things aren't needed for happiness. There is alot of time between now and your own death. Why not use it? There's no solid evidence that you get a second run at things - why waste the chance?

    To say that people who are suicidal are probably spoiled rich kids is offensive, and the world over, accurate. So why, then? why would people who have the things the rest of the world is fighting for hate the world so much as to remove themselves from it? Might it be that they can only see one way of living - aquiring stuff? and having grown up with all the stuff they could want, they realize the fruitlessness of that quest, and therefor decide that they have no reason to live? could it also be that they fail at one thing, and suddenly their self-concived world comes crashing down around them?

    Why be angry at a child for his lack of life expirirence. Instead of being pissed at the rich kids who kill themselves, why not go grab a bunch of them, and take them camping? teach them what a good's day's work is like, and watch them all be the better for it.

    Don't get angry at ignorance, teach.



    Avatar, check this thread out, hopefully it will be of use:
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7108&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
     
  15. nirav008 Registered Member

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    As somone stated "die with reason, or make your death more meaningful" Well how about donating your organs. I would like to die as soon as I can, but I'd like to donate my organs, and have the doctor give me some bloody injection that'll make me stop breathing and take it from there...
     
  16. What if I think that sodomizing, torturing, and murdering my neighbor is the best thing, or callously massacring all my neighbors, with excruciating and sanguine methods?
    What if I am experiencing a terrific, compelling urge to do so immediately?
    What if doing otherwise would be "contrary to what I know to be the best thing"?
    What if I have ascertained that such a deed would be favorable and conducive to elation, jollity and self-fulfillment?

    Am I still doing wrong if I restrain myself?

    Why not spell "experience" correctly and use the appropriate punctuation?

    By the by, that Kung Po movie was hilarious, absolutley uproarious. Did anyone ever see that?

    I like you.
     
  17. Nightjar S...O...S... Registered Senior Member

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    Hey dude, I think you just need meaning in your life. It could be just that you, me, and many of us, were raised in this armagedon era, and we want to know sooo bad, that we can hardly wait. But, since we're here now, and it will come to an end someday, we maybe need to find something that holds our interest enough to give us the desire to be here. I think what would help me is if I were able to move and get the hell out of Dodge. I think the change of scenery and everything else would allow me to see things in full color again. Perhaps this may be a solution for you as well, especially if you are over there where death is in the air!

    Stick around, I enjoy reading your posts and threads!!
     
  18. Nightjar S...O...S... Registered Senior Member

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    AND FOR SOME OF THE REST OF YOU,... THERE IS A REAL HUMAN LIFE ON THE OTHER END OF YOUR LINE. YOU DON'T KNOW, IT COULD BE YOUR MOTHER, BROTHER, SISTER, OR THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. IF NOT HE IS SOMEONES!!!!
     
  19. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    no- need no meaning actually
    I think the best thing to do is to enjoy your life as much as you can
    take pleasure even from pain
    that way you'd have nothing to regret in the end
     
  20. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Chronic Depression ?

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    no way dude
    I enjoy my stay here
    as said it was a weird glitch in my brain
    a want to jump to death
    I have no depression no whatever
    just fall to my death, weird huh?

    oh yeah- step infront of a fast moving vehicle also
     
  21. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    i would rather die of exhuastion than die of boredome.
     
  22. Blindman Valued Senior Member

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    Hi Avatar..

    In my humble opinion.

    You are suffering from, opps experiencing a simple thinking problem.

    You seam to understand that is just a thought and have never taken action on these day dreams.

    People tend to have themes to their day dreams, for which there are many causes.

    You need to explore the concept of your suicide day dream. Find the initiator.. the first part of the thought process. Once found analyze it subjectively. Talk to a friend ( not a forum).Talk about why you find it easy to put time into these thoughts..

    If you feel you want to change then start to modify the dream with conscious training. This can be difficult. Plant a thought in your head to say “If I think of suicide (death or what ever starts the process), I will snap my fingers.”

    ( what you do is of no matter, it could just be another thought like “How to make my mum happy”).

    So next time you realize your in the suicide day dream go back to your training and snap your fingers (or what ever). It will be difficult and will require a forced conscious effort. The conscious effort will reduce over time. Eventually the initial feeling, impulse will lead to a new dream

    It is very difficult to explain how this is done with out direct consultation. With mental effort you can redirect subconscious impulses.

    If your suicide thoughts unsettles you, causing stress I would suggest you find professional help immediate.

    I continually think of the Super heroic things I could do right down to causing the cataclysm in the first place. I enjoy it and realize it is just a dream, not action.

    Once again. If you find you are being stressed by these thoughts. Rising heart rate, discomfort, see your doctor and get help.


    Hope this helps…..
     
  23. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    1st - thnx for the help

    2nd
    I know what causes it
    some weird form of curiosity
    what if? what would happen? how would it feel? would it be a nice feeling

    also- I'm a very introvert person, I don't talk with my friends about such things, even more, I don't consider it as a problem, just an interesting glitch
    If one day I wouldn't be able to control it, then it would be my fault, my lack of strenght and if you are not strong enough to live, you don't deserve it
     

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