Mr. Putin don't blame others for problems you start

Belgrade (AFP) - President Vladimir Putin accused his US counterpart Barack Obama of a hostile approach towards Russia, warning in a Cold War-style tirade that Moscow would not be blackmailed by the West over Ukraine.

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-accuses-obama-hostile-attitude-towards-russia-232728999.html

Let us look at the things Russia has done to invoke a restricting of trade. Russian missiles shot down a civilian airliner probably by Russian military since they were the ones who knew how to use that missile.

Russia invaded the Ukraine.

Russia is now sending in more troops to try and hold the Crimea and move up into central Ukraine.

Russia claims that the Crimean people want to be part of Russia but as yet not allowed them to vote upon this.

So Mr. Putin it is not that you didn't expect such reactions when you allowed these things to transpire so why are you complaining about something that you created and have as yet stopped doing? Everyone knows you're the country responsible for this fiasco and it is you who can reverse this situation.

 

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I've heard the US played a role in the overthrow of the Russian-friendly regime. Imagine if Russia did the same to some country near us, we would freak out too.

 

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And do you have any credible evidence to support what you heard? No you don't because none exists.

 

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US campaign behind the turmoil in Kiev
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa

 

That opinion piece predated Russia's invasion by almost a decade. Further more unsupported allegation isn't evidence.

 

Uh, you realize they did just that in a country less than 100 miles from the US, right?

 

Lol, I take it your are referring to Cuba? That happened more than a half century ago during the Cold War. Did you not hear? The Cold War ended decades ago. You should join Putin at his Cold War country club.

The bottom line here is you have no evidence to support your contentions.

 

Sorry, my mistake. I'll try to find something.

OK, how about this:
The Not-So-Secret Ukraine Phone Call
http://www.thenation.com/blog/178293/not-so-secret-ukraine-phone-call

The transcript of the Nuland-Pyatt phone call, which apparently occurred sometime last week and was released on YouTube on February 6, reveals how deeply the United States is enmeshed into internal Ukrainian affairs. The two diplomats banter about which of the Ukrainian opposition figures ought to go into the government, perhaps as prime minister, if a deal can be struck with Viktor Yanukovich, the president. As if it’s any of her business, Nuland says, referring to Vitali Klitschko (“Klitsch”), an opposition leader, “I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea.” To which Pyatt, after a long pause, replies, “Just let him stay out and do his political homework and stuff.”

 

that's not proof of the US actually being involved with the over throw. it also ignores the fact the Ukrainians didn't like Yanukovich. their was some concern of shenanigans when Yanukovich was elected. not mention one of the US own allies is probably the reason were even involved in the first place. poland has been trying to shore up the countries in eastern europe against russia for a while due to russian threats. while the US may or may not be involed i think its naive to assume its cause were their just to fuck around.

 

How much do you think Russia is involved with Syria's affairs, so much so that almost all of Syria's weapons are Russian as is Iran's as was Iraq's military. Syria's President is nothing more than a puppet for Putin as is the leader of Iran. So talk all about American involvement but please don't forget Russian involvement and the murder of 300 civilians on a airliner which you don't seem to be addressing.

 

Except, the transcript doesn't reveal anything nefarious or untoward by the US. It doesn't prove the US created, sponsored or led the Ukrainian pro European majority.

Additionally, no one admits making this recording so the veracity of the recording must be questioned. Most think it was created and published by Russia...no conflict on interest there.

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When this was first released it went over with a thud. It isn't in any way remarkable. It doesn't prove what Putin says it proves. It's just normal diplomatic discourse which occurs every day in embassies across the globe, including Russian, Chinese, German, UK, et al.

Surprise, diplomatic missions talk to foreign governments. That's what they are suppose to do - look after the interests of their respective nations.

So again where is the evidence to support your assertions?

 

Putin has been rattling his sabers trying to get some attention. First he rattled the nuclear sabre. When that didn't work he rattled the natural gas sabre. Poor Putin, what is a petty tyrant to do? He cannot get any respect. I think the sanctions are starting to hurt.

 

I didn't assert anything as fact. I was only referring to things I had heard. Perhaps there isn't any evidence for it. I'm undecided at the moment.

 

Time to dust off the 'ole Kremlin playbook. Let's see, he could try ripping his shirt off and flapping around those sexy flabby pecs, Russians go gaga over that (in a state-approved non-gay manner, of course). He can go cuddle with sedated tigers, or maybe get someone to catch a giant fish or find an undersea treasure for him. Ok, if that still doesn't work, he can go fly some rusty bombers up to the Estonian border and warn us how the computers controlling his missiles are threatening a machine rebellion apocalypse, and they can only be appeased by handing more land over to droopy-eyed drunk fetal alcohol Ruskies.

 

One of the Siberian Tigers Putin uses for his staged PR events has fled Mother Russia for China. I guess he didn't like the drugs.

 

So Putin is comparing himself to a almost extinct animal. There use to be thousands but Putin couldn't stop his own countrymen from hunting them to almost extinction. Great leader isn't he for the preservation of endangered animals.

If Russia isn't pushed back from Crimea it will advance into the rest of the Ukraine within the next 10 years or less. Since there's no real opposition from anyone to make him pull his forces out then it is only a matter of time before he advances.

 

Seriously, any nation which refuses to wean itself off Russian energy and start seeking other suppliers, should lose their trading privileges with the US and be treated as if they were buying oil from Hitler himself. Remember, Hitler might have been more outspoken, but he never threatened anyone with nukes. I'm pissed off that the world (especially Germany) is sitting on its ass and resting hopes for punishing Russia on the price of oil dropping. Putin should have already been bankrupted at this point and visiting Beijing to beg for loans.

 

lets be honest the only probably reason hitler didn't threaten anyone with nukes is cause the crazy bastard didn't have them. given his stance on mustard gas I'm willing to accept the possiblity he wouldn't. putin not so much.

 

I'm sure if Hitler had nukes, he probably would have been more than happy to use them, but of course he never got them and by most accounts he was never even close, Heisenberg was a great theoretical physicist but a terrible project manager. All the same, even if Putin doesn't call for ethnic genocide as overtly as his mentor once did, Putin actually has the nukes to back it up, and the fact that he's crazy enough to brandish them and threaten his own trade partners with them proves that he needs to be halted in his tracks ASAP.

 

Germany has been problematic for years now, insisting on arcane austere fiscal and monetary policies when the exact opposite is required. German influence is why Europe remains on the brink of recession 7 years after the liquidity crisis began.