Misogyny, Guns, Rape and Culture..

Your move, Tiassa.

 

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So now you know what gender I (supposedly) am, and what society I live in, despite me having never given any indication of either. You've just lost all of your credibility by shooting off unsupported assumptions. Then again, how much did you have to begin with, when you are quite happy to place women at increased danger of rape while you cling to your idealogue?

 

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tali89, make an actual, rational, fact-supported argument, or get the hell out of this thread

 

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Ditto, Kitt.

 

You, Trooper, have no room to even attempt to lecture anyone. I would say it is a case of the pot calling the kettle black... except I have made several good points in this thread while you, you conniving snake, have dodged every question posed to you.

As far as I am concerned, your opinion is worth less than the piss pot families of old would bring to the tanner!

 

Shouldn't a part of any such campaign also inform people of their risks and prevention strategies?

"The problem with a campaign like that is that it feeds the “blame the victim” mentality. One of the biggest problems in rape culture is that many rape victims blame themselves, which means that they don’t press charges."—common feminist answer

Are you willing to take that risk, Tiassa? Can you guarantee that this approach will reduce the number of rapes without the need to inform people of their risks or provide them with prevention strategies?

 

Are you willing to take that risk? Can you guarantee that this approach will reduce the number of rapes without the need to inform people of their risks or provide them with prevention strategies?

Answer the question, smart one.

 

why should anyone cave to any of your demands when you can't answer the simple question of how you address the vast majority of rapes your "rules" won't do diddly squat to prevent?

 

You haven't posed any question that I have seen is worth answering - instead, you have pandered and meandered about, wandering from vague point to pointless irrelevance without ever touching on a useful idea or thought.

 

It wasn't your fault, Bells. The criminal or moral responsibility should never be transferred to the victim but withholding information that may help keep people safe isn't right, either. There is middle ground between the two.

 

*headdesk*

And yet again you miss the point of what, if my quick estimate is correct, at least half the people in this thread have been trying to tell you - when you put the entire obligation to safety and protection from rape on the woman, and then give them the third degree if they are raped, you are making THEM feel and appear to be at fault.

 

Who in hell made you a moderator, huh? Everyone gets that, you idiot, but this is not what most feminists are proposing. The "tell men to stop raping" campaign is great. Nobody in their right mind wants rapists to flourish. Change the world, if you can, little guy, but what do we do in the meantime? Feminists feel too uncomfortable with any rape prevention strategies being directed towards "potential" victims...and that's where the problem lies. Not providing the information IS irresponsible.

 

I am not concerned with what "most" feminists are proposing... I am concerned with the ones in this thread that keep trying to lay blame at the feet of the victim, saying such things as "you didn't do enough" or "you should have done more".

 

What about people who didnt lock ther door an someone simply walked in an raped 'em... do you thank they "shoud have done more"... ie... used "good common sense" an locked ther door.???

 

As others have noted in other discussions, Canadians in many large cities apparently do not lock their doors in general. Does that make them lacking in common sense? It apparently does not make them more likely to be raped, but less. How about the recommendation that the US adopt the apparently better functioning Canadian rape prevention methods - would that be irresponsible?

Rape prevention would involve changing "the world". You are asking what we should do in the absence of, or while waiting for, effective rape prevention efforts. It's a reasonable question, as long as the answers are not mistaken for the rape prevention you are not addressing.

Nobody is not providing information, or recommending refusal to provide information, or denying information to anyone. This was true the first time you posted that bullshit, and every time since. You have been corrected in that matter several times now.

Never said anything like that - which is a response I could just copy and use for every single response you have posted here. Is English your native language, or what is your problem reading my posts?

 

To be clear... are you suggestin that ther woud be less rape in America if people left ther doors unlocked.???

 

Because that is what's happening, iceaura. Google around.

Goodnight, iceaura.

 

quit lying. you have personally attacked victims of sexual assault. when the victims your supposedly try to protect tell you your wrong shouldn't that tell you something? oh but that's right your better than us you followed the rules.

 

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